Collecting/Misprints33 messages

Dear collectors,

Can anyone tell me what is the value of a misprint and whether it occurs frequently?

I have the album below, but on some pages only the colors are printed, without black outlines or text.

I also have a "Rob of the Robbers" album that is upside down in the cover.

http://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/ comics / series-heroes / day-and-heidi / 21824-the-black-horse

The old paper price is currently 8 to 9 cents per kilo.

There are people who collect misprints but, as the Boekenmagazijn suggests, there are few and the prices are low. So you are not going to get rich from this. We also do not include these types of individual mistakes in the catalog.

Now I just find Bakelandt number 4 in the catalog, which is listed as misprint and normal print. And the price varies widely, I think.

http://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/strips/series- heroes / bakelandt / 17352-the-iron-duke

If you look at the prices of the sellers, it is not too bad.
In this case, the Catawiki price simply makes no sense at all.

With misprints it is what the fool gives for it I think it's waste paper myself, comics are not stamps.
But there will undoubtedly be people who think it is special.

Okay, I'll just throw it in and we'll see :)

Now I just find Bakelandt nummr 4 in the catalog, which is listed as misprint and normal print.

We only do this because a significant number of them have come into circulation.

Misprints, well one says what a fool gives and thinks it is waste paper because comics are not postage stamps and the other says that we only include them in the catalog because a considerable number of them have come into circulation and another says that these kinds of individual mistakes will therefore not be included in the catalog and there will be quite a few collectors but the prices are low.

So much for an unambiguous opinion on this

Still, I read somewhere on the forum that a 'very reputable and appreciated and praised catawiki shop' regularly had collectors asking for misprints.

In addition, there are also regular topics on this subject (added) because, as can be read, there are very different ideas about it and actually those who do not want to know anything about this have the upper hand, ie the last vote, at least so it seems. . I propose a more 'open' discussion and I therefore have the following comments or suggestions and practical examples:

- What is actually the criterion for whether or not to be included in the catalog and who (ultimately) determines this?

(How many should have come into circulation and who has the numbers?)

- Then why should comics be any different than stamps for misprints?

(N.B. see also above: the most expensive stamp is a misprint and 1 known !?)

- There is even a special (or even 2) catalog (es) for misprints of stamps

(Could that be one of the reasons for the 'rejection', that it is still an unknown area that may need to be further mapped out first?) And (that could also fuel a greater interest)

- But what is a misprint, really, because I think there are a great number of possibilities in this area that could be covered. I would take the special stamp catalog about this as an example, although some (more well-known) misprints are also included in the 'normal' catalog. And then we see a clear picture, the fewer copies of it are (known), the rarer and (automatically) the more expensive.

- Doesn't the saying also read 'unknown is unloved'? and this also does not apply to misprints of comics (and comics), etc. And by the way, misprints are also collected in areas other than comics and, certainly as such, offered (and asked) with associated (high (er)) prices (price levels ).

Practice also shows that there is indeed a market for it and why not an 'open mind' in this case and it will only benefit the (completeness) of the catalog and do not forget that there are very special and are pretty quaint funny strange misprints.

I would like to hear what everyone thinks about this and if white smoke comes out of the (in this case) digital chimney, then I already have a nice number of these misprints that I will then enter on Catawiki, of which a certificate.

- What is the criterion for whether or not to be included in the catalog and who (ultimately) determines this?

Ultimately, Rene, as the owner, decides what goes into the catalog. Incidentally, he is advised by his administrators in this regard. In recent years, the frameworks of the sections have been established during the management consultations

This is laid down in a manual for the comics section.

Handbook Comics

As for the misprints ..

The vast majority of misprints are assembly errors (pages in the wrong order, book block upside down, different book block between the covers, etc ...)

These are unique errors that do not apply to the entire run. We do not include these. Only when there is an error in the entire edition do we record the album as a variant. (In most cases, the publisher has withdrawn the circulation, but a number of copies have nevertheless been released.)

First, a distinction must be made between a misprint and a binding error. In the past it usually happened at different companies; the printing and bindery. Binding errors are relatively easy to solve and therefore also simulate. A book block of a glued book can be put upside down in the binding by a little handy tinkerer with iron and glue. Smooth ice for inclusion in a catalog or to attach prices to it. Errors at the printer cannot simply be falsified, for example: a color that has disappeared, part of the text upside down (549261), strip order wrong.

I like printing errors more fun and more attractive to discover and collect than all those commercial variations of the same book such as advertising editions and / or various formats (mini, extra large) and binding methods (slip sleeve, velvet) etc. From me printing errors deserve a place in catalogs .

I find Film special nr. 6 of junior press Howard the duck catawiki nr 49248 actually a nice example of a misprint as page 35 is in Finnish but one is a normal copy, so a white sheet with the text in between is given in the distribution, which means that most likely no album with the Dutch page there is a kind of exuus from a certain Ans Loos from Juniorpress along the bottom of the page with additional explanation. As I just noticed that this page apparently had not been added by anyone yet, but the mention of it that page 35 was in Finnish plus reference to photo 3 which I did not find and actually have very serious suspicions that actually that album with that attached page earlier it is rare as it has probably been lost as it is loose or has been placed in it. Although it is slightly smaller in size than the album itself. so basically you could say that without that extra page attached this album is an incomplete album and even in new condition it is worth nothing as it is incomplete due to the lack of that page as it was there when it was distributed.

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Deze was je in je post vergeten volgens mij :-)

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I think you forgot this in your post :-)

Peter, sometimes you are too sharp, but fun ... :-))

Sorry for the comma's but my keyboard refuses a lot on that key will have to renew it sometime (worn ????).

There are points, because otherwise I have no main letters at the beginning of the sentence.

Possibly a bit confusing because there are no gaps in between.

Seem now, just forget about hitting Enter.

Making everything hang together.

49248 is a misprint, but it is probably also the only common variant. Just too lazy or tight-fisted to fix the error.

But it is indeed a good example of what we do include. A (large part of a) print run that comes onto the market.

actually have a question about a completely different kind of misprint.

This one when cutting.

Now I know that if there is a corner away from a book, it will certainly not be Mint condition or near mint condition, but I have N ° 23139 with a corner too much;)

Is it allowed in near mint condition ???????

A pentagonal album ... that's something else. But it remains a misprint.

that's not an answer bad wolf;)

Should I put it under reasonable condition or may it be under almost ns

As far as I am concerned, it is at most reasonable, but who am I to determine that. In my opinion, misprints are in any case never (near) new condition, even if they have just come off the binding street.

Ook een mening vers van de pers maar niet nieuw ????????

Mijn mening als misdrukverzamelaar unieker dan de vierkante hapklare brokken.

Metalfigures ook misdruCverzamelaar

Also an opinion fresh from the press but not new ????????

My opinion as a misprint collector more unique than the square bite-sized chunks.

Metalfigures also misdruC collector

I have a misprint of item 98985

This is Asterix The Gaul from Hachette.

The following pages are blank: 4,5,8,9,12,13,16.

Now I understand from the foregoing that misprints are not included, have a value of old paper price and the like.

My question in this is whether this is a common misprint because then inclusion in the catalog would be justified.

If not, the item will simply arrive my collection with misprint.

Please answer.

Thank you in advance.

If a misprint is worth nothing, why are plate errors on stamps worth money then and can all be entered, you can see it as a failure and throw it away. I do not think that is worth anything and not to collect.

@Vision

A bit blunt, isn't it? Collectors simply find misprints on stamps worth a lot of money. That's a fact, whether you like it or not. If you have misprints, give them to me instead of throwing them away.

@ Morits

No Throwing away misprints of comic books is not straightforward, give them to me if you have them. And there are also collectors of misprints in comics and that is also a fact whether you like it or not I know nothing about it. Look, everyone has their own opinion. And your opinion and mine has never really aligned. And don't have any plate errors, if I don't think it's worth collecting, read last post, then I don't have them too, better read friend. And if I already had them then I really wouldn't give them to you. You should not just read that one piece, it is more about the question why the 1 is and the other is not and you say stamps are because there are collectors of them, so again what I mentioned years ago: who determines what a collectible item is ?, the administrator (s) or the person (s) who collects / collects it. I find a good question myself, my answer is the person (s) who collect / collect it.

@vision

Ben ik helemaal met je eens, maar er zijn zoals Arco het leuk brengt veel eilandbewoners en helaas ook onder de beheerders die een verzamelgebiedje angstvallig beschermen tegen de boze LEGALE stripmisdrukken maar wel de illegale strips toelaten

Vraag voor Morits wat is een illegale postzegel waard? 

Antwoord voor Skroets de misdruk is mij bekend ik had hem zelfs dubbel en in 2008 verkocht voor 75,00 euro (niet slecht voor maar een “waardeloze” strip )  en een hogere waardes dan Catawiki Cataloguswaarden.

 

@vision

I completely agree with you, but like Arco, there are many islanders and unfortunately also among the administrators who jealously protect a collecting area against the angry LEGAL comic misprints, but do allow the illegal comics

Question for Morits what is an illegal stamp worth?

Answer for Skroets I am aware of the misprint, I even sold it twice and in 2008 for 75.00 euros (not bad for just a "worthless" comic) and a value higher than Catawiki's catalog values.