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Would one of the administrators can double remove? 2nd edition

Thank you in advance

Harry J

Done

Dear Jilles, that's fast, thank you!

Volgens mij zijn nummers 4406351 em 4783665 dezelfde boekjes

 

I think numbers 4406351 and 4783665 are the same booklets

If you include both songs in your collection, there is nothing I can do for you.

Please 4783665 .

Could an administrator delete / merge them? The 2 to be removed are the books without the accompanying dust jacket which are on 2366903 .

https://www.catawiki.nl/search?type=139&q=double+of+2366903+

Dear Harry,

I don't want to get involved in anything, but you have to be careful about marking books without dust jackets as duplicating books with. It is more common than you think that one and the same book, interior and binding, has different dust jackets. Moreover, I personally find it very annoying when a book with a dust jacket is in the catalog and offered for sale. You should first check whether the seller has been kind enough to state whether the item on offer is indeed with a dust jacket. Because for me a book with and without a dust jacket is a different book and not necessarily a duplicate.

M.v.g.,

Enigma

Book without dust jacket is an incomplete item.

If a book with deviating dust jackets exists, each deviating dust jacket is a new item.

When selling, you can assume that the seller provides the correct information for the item to be sold, with or without dust jacket.

Dear Enigma and Dick52. The Van Veen edition has a red binding and is printed Meijer te Wormer. So I first checked whether the 2 catalog items without the dust jacket are also the same with the one with the dust jacket. That is really the same edition, it really comes with that beautiful color cover. so you can remove the 2 with confidence. I don't care if you leave them alone, was more of a tip to clean up the catalog. A book that once had a dust jacket is the original and where that dust jacket is gone, it is no other edition, it is only an incomplete book. Do you agree that buying a book with dust jacket without photos or info that the dust jacket is not included is Not Done. But a catalog with all kinds of duplicates with dust jackets and without dust jackets seems so wrong to me.

It wasn't meant to be criticism either. Just wanted to point out that things can be different from what they seem. Because the reverse is also common, same cover, different band. That is no problem if picture 1 is the front, picture 2, the back and picture 3 is the band. But only picture 1 is required, so it is very often guessing whether or not they are the same books, even if you consider a book without a cover to be incomplete.

M.v.g.,

Enigma

Als je de historie van 2366903 bekijkt zie je dat Harry56, toen hij dit boek zes jaar geleden als "Eerste druk" invoerde, bij de Bijzonderheden vermeldde: 

Stofomslag voor en achterkant is the same als de plaat op de cover

Als we ervan uit mogen gaan dat de door dondonald toegevoegde informatie over 1e en 2e druk correct is (ik heb zelf niet de mogelijkheid dat te verifiëren), dan kunnen we concluderen dat dit een HERDRUK moet zijn, en dat de later als afbeelding 3 ingevoerde rode band niet bij dit item hoort. En de andere twee items zijn dan dus ook GEEN doublures van dit boek.

Aan de andere kant... dat had Harry toch ook moeten opvallen, dus waar zit de fout?

P.S. Met dit soort gerommel kun je het verkopers vaak ook niet kwalijk nemen als hun aanbieding niet overeenkomt met de verwachtingen van de koper.

P.P.S. De herdruk verscheen al in november 1949. Bevestiging dat de eerste druk uit 1938 stamt is eveneens te vinden op Delpher.

If you look at the history of 2366903 you will see that Harry56, when he entered this book as "First edition" six years ago, stated in the Details:

Dust jacket front and back is the same as the plate on the cover

If we can assume that the information about 1st and 2nd editions added by dondonald is correct (I have no way of verifying this myself), then we can conclude that this must be a REPRINT, and that the later entered image 3 red strap does not belong to this item. And the other two items are therefore NOT duplications of this book.

On the other hand... Harry should have noticed that too, so where's the mistake?

PS With this kind of rumbling, you often can't blame sellers if their offer doesn't match the buyer's expectations.

PPS The reprint already appeared in November 1949 . Confirmation that the first edition is from 1938 can also be found on Delpher .

Book Warehouse: well with the shame on my collector's jaws, I see again that Enigma had a truth and point to be careful with changes and duplications. Fortunately, Enigma and Boekenmagazijn are there to prevent further mistakes.

I made the mistake of not looking at the history and therefore had not seen the "wrong" change of Hjerik (well meaning he also does a lot for the catalog) and changes of Disney connoisseur DonDonald. I have learned (excuse) to stay away from corrections and to limit myself to input after info via eg KB etc. The 2366903 was introduced as a 1950 copy with dust jacket and cover the same illustration. The red edition without cover (which in my view does include a dust jacket) is also with new spelling. I still don't know what the 1938 copy looks like. Just before the war there was also a period of new developments, which makes it difficult even for KB.

There can be a reprint or additional print that is completely the same, but one print can have a dust jacket and the other doesn't. Then they are two different articles, and without them it is not an "incomplete item".

So in this I want to follow enigma.

IN ADDITION: if you maintain your own collection with Catawiki, you should be able to enter those "incomplete copies".

Dear RetepEttom,

Obviously, the import of an incomplete copy is permitted, provided that someone who enters it is sure that the publication is not already in the catalog. If I have a book without a dust jacket and find out via, for example, KB that there is a dust jacket with it, I enter it as a book with dust jacket and comment "pictured here without the dust jacket" For example with youth series Bob Evers where the old hard covers were always with dust jackets, I sometimes entered the books without so (editions not yet known in the catalog) with this comment. It is annoying that if you enter carefully, you regularly find out later that an entry has been corrected, once someone who corrected my Bob Evers with SO s with his Bob Evers for sale without the dust jackets. Then your courage sometimes sinks in your shoes. Fortunately, the Catawiki system is beautiful and the history is always preserved, including the scanned plates or covers. Enigma's remark remains that it is annoying to buy a book without a dust jacket on the basis of the information in the catalog that it would be a bound book without an SO, which later turns out to be a part of it. Then you still partly buy a Cat in the Bag.

Anyhow I still enjoy what the catalog has to offer every day.

The following books are duplicated and can be combined:

756101 and 4112303

4112311 and 3725587

974197 and 756099

Thank you in advance

4112303 has since been removed and no longer needs to be merged.

Rest is merged

thank you

Would any of the administrators in this series (which I modified with new photos and descriptions and full box entry) want to remove the 2 double entries (red bands without the covers)?

https://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/boeken/series-held-in/1505099-giuseppe-en-maria

Thanks in advance

Harry J

Het boek Sprookjes en vertellingen CW 2270329 heeft twee doublures waarbij de info niet klopt : CW 3260395 en 586461

The book Fairytales and Stories CW 2270329 has two duplications where the info is incorrect: CW 3260395 and 586461

Correction to my request to remove the 2 red bands in the series, excuse, please do not remove it

https://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/boeken/series-held-in/1505099-giuseppe-en-maria

The 2 volumes are different editions than the volumes I found in the box of 4. I do not know what the 1st editions are, at least my books have no printing reference, the color of the book bindings is different and the back illustrations too. I will check with KB how it works, but it may be that they do not know there either.

With the Box (catalog number) 7532949

added a scan of the spines of the 4 parts for comparison with the aforementioned 2 red bands.

Too bad, but due to a 504 gateway time-out problem he entered https://www.lastdodo.nl/catalogus/tijdschrift-kranten/tijdschrift-krant/starlog/8171805-starlog-60 2x ..... ........

Fixed.

Thank you

Usually if he gives a 504, he does update the database in the background.