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A question. I would like to add my collection Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks (Steve Jackson & amp; Ian Livingstone) to my collection here, but there are now only 8 booklets of the English language series in the catalog and some with erroneous data (especially what the authors and printing).

My question is briefly about indicating the pressures. For some titles 8 different editions are known (these can be distinguished by differences on the cover), but each booklet only contains the year of the first edition. Now I read that you are normally not allowed to distinguish by means of letters as a number addition unless a book was reissued in the same year, but is it allowed in this case because the year of publication is not visible? Since it concerns almost 90 titles that I want to add, I prefer to know this in advance before I do everything wrong.

Regarding the booklets that are already in the catalog, can I adjust the data there to the correct printing based on the photos that are added to the booklets?
Those who added the booklets have listed Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstone as author here for most of the titles. However, this is not correct. These were the ones who made the series, but the titles were written by different authors. I assume that I can just adjust it to the existing booklets?

Just to be clear. The pressures can be distinguished by the following characteristics:

-Drawing continues on back.

-Right bottom of the cover is a star with the title number.

-A green zigzag band at the top of the front.

-Top front bronze dragon. Number is on the back and front.

-Top front bronze dragon. Without numbers on cover.

- Top front bronze dragon with number on the back only.

-Top front black dragon with number on the back only.

-Special edition with black cover.

This is also the order of the presses. Not all editions of all titles have been published.

This is the first series published by Puffin. After that, several titles were reissued in new series from other publishers.

Please do not use number addition for this. Just put the pressure on Details and also indicate that year is not mentioned. Of course you can fix all errors.

Okay, great, thanks.

Inmiddels heb ik al mijn exemplaren aan de catalogus toegevoegd. Het enige wat nu ontbreekt zijn de heruitgaven van verhalen uit de originele reeks in latere reeksen, want die heb ik namelijk nooit gekocht.

De boekjes die er al in stonden waren door verschillende mensen ingevoerd en stonden onder verschillende series. Ik heb ze nu allemaal onder de serie Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks neergezet.

Hierdoor zijn de volgende series leeg:

-Fighting fantasy

-Fighting fantasy gamebooks (met kleine letters. Er stonden een aantal boekjes in deze serie en een aantal in de serie die ik nu gebruikt heb en die heb ik nu bij elkaar gezet). 

Misschien kan iemand die verwijderen.

Verder is de volgende boekenreeks leeg aangezien de Nederlandse uitgaven nu allemaal onder Fantasy Aventurenboeken staan zoals de reeks ook heet:

-Fantasy Avonturenboek

Misschien kan ook iemand deze lege reeks verwijderen.

Wat overigens opviel bij de originele Puffin reeks is dat verschillende drukken (met afwijkende kaften) regelmatig gewoon hetzelfde ISBN van de uitgever hebben gekregen. Waarmee de hardnekkige denkfout die veel mensen maken dat een ISBN gekoppeld is aan een uniek boek weer eens bevestigd wordt. Dit is uiteraard wel het idee van een ISBN, maar ik heb zelf meerdere jaren in een boekhandel gewerkt en er zijn meerdere uitgevers die soms nadat een bepaalde titel langere tijd niet meer lever baar is hetzelfde ISBN op nieuw gebruiken voor een andere titel.

I have now added all my copies to the catalogue. The only thing missing now are the reissues of stories from the original series in later series, because I never bought them.

The booklets that were already in it had been entered by different people and were under different series. I have now put them all under the Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks series.

As a result, the following series are empty:

-Fighting fantasy

-Fighting fantasy gamebooks (with small print. There were a number of books in this series and a number in the series that I used now and I have now put them together).

Maybe someone can remove it.

Furthermore, the following book series is empty since the Dutch editions are now all under Fantasy Adventure Books, as the series is also called:

-Fantasy Adventure Book

Maybe someone can also remove this empty sequence.

What was also striking about the original Puffin series is that different editions (with different covers) regularly received the same ISBN from the publisher. This confirms the persistent fallacy that many people make that an ISBN is linked to a unique book. This is of course the idea of an ISBN, but I myself worked in a bookstore for several years and there are several publishers who sometimes use the same ISBN again for another title after a certain title has been unavailable for a long time.

By the way, I now see that Jilles is busy rearranging the books. That is not handy because the format I used is that of the official collectors guide. A pity this. The term adventure gamebooks is indeed above a certain pressure, but that is not a separate series. Not really useful if someone with less knowledge of the series then undo all my work.

The same ISBN can never be used for different books; however for different editions of the same book.

It's okay that something still needs to change, as long as they stay organized.

Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks, for example, is not a Series, but a Series. It would be a series if every book is about the same heroes, but that doesn't seem like that.

Those changes now ensure that booklets from the same series are put in different series, so that seems to me that they are no longer ordered, but well they are.

Incidentally, your claim that the same ISBN can never be used for different books is untrue. I have experienced that myself a few times. Otherwise I wouldn't have said that here. Some publishers reuse books ISBN numbers from books that have been out of print for a long time. That should not be done according to the rules, but it does happen. But also for that, I only share it from years of experience in the book trade and if you don't want to believe it, fine too.

It is best to email Jilles; apparently he is bored on Texel after all.

What a series and what a series I am not involved in. I gave up on that a long time ago. But as for the ISBN, which is by no means unique, I can only confirm.

Never knew ...

Mnemonic: Series refers to the outside, Series to the content.

As far as I have read briefly, a (mathematical) series is a summation of series ...

I know how LD defines "series" and "series", but for every other Dutch person they are fully-fledged synonyms. The intention is good, there is no discussion about that, but the primary goal is to be able to group “things”. In the present case, there are volumes published by multiple publishers and in multiple series. You can only get them together by filling in "Fighting Fantasy Gamebook" under "series".

That's what I actually thought too. A series can consist of several series that together form a larger whole. Anyway, those are those word games that don't really bother me. In this case, all more than a hundred books that I entered yesterday / today belong to the Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks. I don't care what you want to call it.

Within this whole you have several series that I had now filled in as series of books. Those different series have no official names, but I had taken over the names (partly translated as this is a Dutch website) from Jamie Fry's Fighting Fantasy Collectors Guide. That is the format generally used by collectors of these booklets.

Anyway, if you prefer to rearrange it yourself, split up and mix series as happened now and whether you call it series or series or something else, you will indulge yourself. Whether it still remains clear for collectors is of course another question.

By the way, I've just checked it (the changes made) and it's not that bad. Currently there is only 1 booklet wrong, ie it is no longer in Puffin's original series while it is part of it. For the rest, everything is as it is now good in terms of layout.

I've been in touch about this with whoever changed this and he said I could put it back, but I think I'd better stay away from it otherwise.

For the interested, this is the booklet "Appointment with F.E.A.R." which is numbered as part 17 in the original Puffin series.