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Can an administrator change the name of Charles van Wales (1948) in the more correct
Charles Windsor, Prince of Wales (1948).

His brother Prince Edward (1964) may be called Edward of Wessex (1964) , with Prince Edward as an alias (as is also done with their father) .
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That could be, but requires consultation first, because this spelling was probably chosen for a certain reason a few years ago. Corresponds to the date on which a name was obtained (birth, 18th birthday, inheritance, etc.).
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My main concern is findability. If you search for "Prince Charles" you will not find Charles of Wales (1948) !
This also applies, for example, to "Lady Diana" or "Princess Diana". Name variants may be used more.
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May 26, 2021 15:12
There is a possibility to add an "alias".

Incidentally, Charles has only been Prince of Wales since 1958. This title is not hereditary. Only when the monarch announces someone as heir to the throne is the title conferred. Diana of Wales cannot, therefore, because she was never heir to the throne.
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Alias or not, you can still choose that. Point 13 of the manual is clear, each person may only appear once.
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Now that you ask: Charles of Wales only appears 213 times, variants not counted. Tapir used to monitor this closely, but now everyone enters something without consultation.
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May 26, 2021 16:58
I see Charles 448 times. But I think it is common to use the most recent denomination. After all, Prince Philip's death date was recently added, according to the same logic.

Lady Di should indeed be Diana, Princess of Wale s, the title she still retained at her death. always had.
Meghan Markle is also still Meghan, Duchess from Sussex (1981) , I believe.
Also Sarah of York (1959) (Ferguson, Sarah) seems to still have the title Sarah, Duchess of York after her divorce, although she is just Sarah Ferguson is mentioned,

Incidentally, Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom (1926) may also be given the alias Queen Elizabeth II (and the name variant Eli s abeth , because it will be re regularly misspelled).
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An industrious contributor incorrectly listed 'Concorde' as 'Person'. If it is changed, will that name automatically disappear as a person?
https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/areas/3063591-concorde
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Yes. If the field is empty, it will be deleted from the list the next night.

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Aha, ok. I am almost on those items, I will correct them and it will be resolved tomorrow.
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If additions (including years) are made to a name, then always place this between [square brackets] and never between normal (brackets). used to indicate aliases. So an urgent appeal to everyone, user and administrator, take this into account.

Aliases can only be entered by administrators. Often I see newly entered names with an alias already behind it. So it doesn't work that way. If an alias is desired, send a request to an administrator of that section.
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???
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You are right, has been corrected.
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Who's gonna change (.......) into [.......] and who's gonna adapt the manual 4 times
to please Mr. Community manager???
Who's gonna tell the catalogue moderators that they should read the manual before asking changing it???  
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Rule 1: I always have ...
Rule 2: in case of doubt ... see rule n ° 1 :)

But that means that almost ALL people are wrong with stamps standing (date of birth-date of death) ??? Always in parentheses now. There are only a few thousand ...



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 Who's gonna change (.......) into [.......] and who's gonna adapt the manual 4 times
to please Mr. Community manager??? 

The manuals have already been adapted to all 4 languages.
Please try to remain substantive.
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but that means that almost ALL persons are wrong with stamps (date of birth-date of death) ??? Always in parentheses now. There are only a few thousand ...

Your observation is correct, but of course it is not a matter of urgency. From now on, please keep an eye on this, so that no new () are added. The existing ones will be corrected over time.
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Read again please!

If you were right, (.......) had to be adapted in [.......] in 4 manuals.

Please don't try to be evasive.
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Tammo,
As a user you probably can't do much about it, except for totally new people.

1. For the pre-existing now using brackets would create a second person, or am I wrong?

2. I recently saw a 'person' with both the dates of life and an alias in common (round) brackets (probably with some holy man who was also a pope). I suppose his 'alias' will have been added by a regular user? Or are they periodically run through to create the alias?

3. As a user, can you find out somewhere in an overview which 'people' occur the most? With such a list, any kind-hearted authorized employee might be tempted to edit some of the "big ones" every once in a while. So in between as a distraction lol

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If the rubric is empty, it will be deleted from the list the next night.
So, if a name only occurs a few times, and you change them all (eg with square brackets instead of round brackets), the next day that person is okay on LD? Then ordinary users can also contribute from time to time.
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So then all designers and engravers will also have the years in square brackets with the stamps?
That will also be a bit of work, I have already entered at least a thousand of them.
Regards John.
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Allow me to reply instead of Collectioneur
1. For the pre-existing now using brackets would create a second person, or am I wrong?

2. I recently saw a 'person' with both the dates of life and an alias in common (round) brackets (probably with some holy man who was also a pope). I suppose his 'alias' will have been added by a regular user? Or are they periodically run through to create the alias?

3. As a user, can you find out somewhere in an overview which 'people' occur the most? With such a list, any kind-hearted authorized employee might be tempted to edit some of the "big ones" every once in a while. So in between as a distraction lol

1. If you now add new items differently as a user, you will get doubles, so stay away from it for the time being. That requires even more work.
2. If you put something in brackets yourself, it is plain text. If you ask an administrator for an alias, you can search in two directions. This is totally different.
3. Big or small doesn't matter. Administrators have a tool to adjust this immediately.

So, if a name only occurs a few times, and you change them all (eg with square brackets instead of round brackets), then the next day that person is okay on LD? Then regular users can also contribute from time to time.

As a user it is better to stay away from it (example with 10 items).
Situation manager: Adjust 10 items with 1 click
User situation: As a user, take the time to adjust 10 items, as an administrator once you review 10 changes. :-(


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@ raoul62
If you have nothing better to do...

I think it's easier if a programmer just releases a script.
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Users should, as user-1713548 also indicates, only apply the [square brackets] for really new names. Every variation on existing names results in a duplication.
This obviously applies not only to the Postage Stamps section, but to all sections. Only at Stamps, however, there are many names where additions are made.

Administrators certainly do not have to improve this with steam and boiling water. If they encounter this, they can edit it.
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