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FYI: I have no idea, otherwise I think the comics are all of English origin. Have entered 2 bundles and I believe there are 2 (or even more?) series/series. Looked everywhere because in terms of Debbies there are a lot, but I didn't think I had entered doubles.

See #8759479 with a printed comic strip and #8759463 with print series comic champ.

I don't know if there are any experts in this field, maybe there is something mixed up.

These bundles were quite pricey, 16 to 18 guilders was not nothing, that aside.


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I suspect that this series Debbie stripkanjer has not been entered correctly. At first you only see 4 out of 10, only the ones that have been given the "Bundling" type. The others have the Type "Bundling" and "Magazine", so they can only be seen if you check "Show clippings".

The Comic Book however says:
6.5 BUNDLE
A publication in one volume, parts of the content of which have previously been published separately. Publication in a (comics) magazine does not count. If the type of bundling is chosen, a second type must always be chosen to indicate what has been bundled.

So I think the correct Type should be "Album".
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If I understand the above definition correctly, there is still some work to be done.

Many bundles of comic magazines (ie bound copies of the actual magazine publications) have only been given the type "Bundling" or "Magazine", while it seems logical to me that they should have both qualifications. As with most Bundlingen Spirou has happened.

A very strict interpretation of the above definition might mean that these issues only fall under the "Magazine" type (with of course the mention in the Series name that it is a bundle of these), but I know not whether that was the intention.


PS All of the 273 Spirou Albums mentioned above are of the "Magazine" Type, but only 237 of them are also of the "Bundling" Type. Does anyone know how I can view the 36 instances that have no Bundling entry?

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Does anyone know how I can get the 36 instances that have no entry Bundling?
No, that is not possible.
For fields with only 1 value, you have a filter "not filled in".
This is not possible for fields with multiple values. There is NOT a filter (I've asked before, I hope it's still on the todo somewhere, preferably at the top ;-) ). The only solution is now to open 2 tabs that are sorted in the same way and then manually compare everything.
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So I think the correct Type should be "Album".

No. These are BUNDLES of MAGAZINES.
So both types must be declared.
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Okay. Which magazine are this do you think are bundles?
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To return to the original question of Harry56 :

Unfortunately, the release dates are unknown and no one has bothered to include the stories in these issues feed. It is therefore impossible for us (who cannot physically compare the books) to verify whether #8759479 (Debbie Stripkanjer 1) corresponds to #1616669 (Comic Star Series 1), or whether they are actually two different series.

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I will enter the stories of the albums I have one of these days. However , as a story there is now Debbie 1 or 2 , do I have to cross that out ?
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As with most Bundeling Spirou has happened.

A very strict interpretation of the above definition might mean that these publications only fall under the "Journal" category (with of course the mention in the Series name that it is a bundle of them), but I don't know if that was the intention.

In any case, the intention was that Spirou bundles also have the Bundeling type. Do you think we should therefore adjust / expand the definition in the Bundeling manual a bit stripspeldjes ?
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As with most Bundeling Spirou has happened.

All Spirou bundles are now marked as Bundeling.
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Very good Collectioneur !
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Do you think that we should therefore adjust / broaden the definition in the Bundling handbook a bit

You have to specify it somewhat, indeed. They are actually two different types.

- The definition of "Bundling" as it stands is actually a reprint of stories that appeared before (in album form). The nowadays popular "integrales" are an example of this. In magazines (or newspapers, I assume) pre-published comics are not under this category, 

- With Magazines you have to take the name Bundeling literally. It is not a reprint, but a collection of separate publications, which have been combined into one item (usually with a new cover).
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You have to specify it something, indeed. They are actually of two different kinds.

- The definition of "Bundling" as it stands is actually a reprint of stories that appeared before (in album form). The nowadays popular "integrales" are an example of this. In magazines (or newspapers, I assume) pre-published comics are not under this category, 

- With Magazines you have to take the name Bundeling literally. It is not a reprint, but a collection of separate publications, which have been combined into one item (usually with a new cover).

Sounds like a good proposal stripspeldjes  Perhaps  Collectioneur can implement this in the manual in due course. He manages this.
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Maybe that will resolve itself in the future when they move to the Magazines section, but you could also create a new Kind of "Magazine Bundle".

You might be wondering if it is useful to find both the single issues and the bound numbers under Magazine.* And to also find both magazines and reprints of albums under Bundling.
Such as observed earlier, you cannot filter them out within the subsection to show them separately.


* And if that is desirable, you should not provide the Clippings (of e.g. comics) with the attribute Magazines.
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Moving magazines and clippings is still a major operation in itself that we have to find the time for. The biggest issue there is that we want to keep the references to series, authors, etc. in the comics section.
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Enter the story titles of the 2 albums I have or is that pointless?
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