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Dear all, who happens to know which stamp this is and which country. I can't find it but it was in my stamps from Belgium. But I doubt.

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January 26, 2022 13:59
Postage stamp,1925 or 1932.Country is correct.
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Frageria You are awesome  found #699113
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Frageria you might know this one too. I have many different ones of these but I can't find the combination 1000#75. Or has this stamp been put under something else? He should be under German Empire  

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January 26, 2022 19:08
Gladiator112 
Try 75000#1000 in the search list by face value.
#641583 or #8589001

Isn't according to the manual ... but you can say that about many items.
It was originally good (75#1000). An area admin should review (and reject) that change.
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January 26, 2022 19:09
Should be under German Reich 1923, Michel 288
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January 26, 2022 19:12
Gladiator112 In any case 75#1000 and not 1000#75
Raoul62 But hey, we are so creative again with "75 tausend", so 75000#1000 ?
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January 26, 2022 19:16
At German Reich there are smart people who want to show that they can read (and understand) old German writing.
Just a pity: just Dutch in a Stamp Handbook ... that's really too difficult :)
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Raoul62  strange that all stamps in this series can be found at normal value and this again 75000#1000. Sometimes I look really bad pffff. But now found under your value thnx
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user-1713548  under 75#1000 I had also searched but it was not under either. It's under 75000#1000 I would never have guessed by the way :)
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We've said it so many times: if everyone would read the manual (and especially apply it!) and if everyone would do their part to find errors, things would run much smoother. There are still thousands of items to review, we still have a long way to go.
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user-1713548 Yes, I am now working with Germany to put it on LastDoDo. But in my book, everything is under Germany. Now I'm looking at last DoDo and see so many different countries in Germany that it will take me a long time to find the right stamp under the right country :)
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Talking about this series, 1923 Numeral overprint (1)
I think this stamp #641583 is the only one where the value is correct, the stamp still says 75 Tausend then it is 75000#1000
At bv this #641591 it says 250 Tausend, then I think it is 250000#200
Or am I seeing this wrong? I can't find anything in the handbook on this topic, maybe it can be included in the handbook.
Greetings John.

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January 26, 2022 20:26
It is a pity that no one among the approximately 500 collectors of the item stands up to become part administrator.

I recently saw, for example, the 'Nominal Value' disaster in the 'United States of America' area. I immediately updated several hundred. Not everything ... I have other responsibilities.
If everyone in a number of countries/regions gets some Nominal Values right, then everyone benefits. You don't need to be an administrator for that.

However, there is a great need for a number of administrators. Especially sub-administrators. To closely monitor one or a few countries/regions. To evaluate the changes anyone can make. As in #641583. The change on 11-03-2020 was incorrect. If there was a share manager, they could easily undo the change, so Gladiator112 would never have had the problem above today. If it takes a week, that's not a disaster. In the meantime it was almost 2 years skewed, and that is too long.
 
That's why this message: if you have some philatelic baggage, and are willing to follow the guidelines (Handbook Stamps and Postmaster), then give a heads up via 'Contact' at the bottom of an LD page. For an area/country for which no one is yet 'responsible'. You really don't have to be the super-specialist-everything connoisseur. Usually you gradually find out which users you can consult for a country/region. And other (main) managers are also ready and willing to share knowledge and skills. You don't have to spend 8 hours a day on it either. If you can spend a few hours a week on it, it's all a win for everyone here at LD.
And important: there is always a way back. Trying costs yellow money, and you gain a unique experience. Is it not working or is it not what you expected? No problem.
Not all at once please :)
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January 26, 2022 20:29
many different countries of Germany
That's what makes collecting so exciting. Suddenly you discover that things are not that simple, that there is history, stories and facts.
Discovering that is the engine that makes a collector go beyond his limits. To boldly go where no man has ever gone before ... so to speak :)
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January 26, 2022 20:39
Lyonesse is right.
According to the manual it must be 75000#1000:
Copy exactly the value as it is on the stamp, without coin indication.
The VALUE is "75 Tausend" or 75000. It is only the currency to be omitted, so the original "1000 Mark" becomes 1000.
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January 26, 2022 20:45
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That's what introduces the confusion.

The manual says: 'Copy the value exactly as it says on the stamp' .
And a little further: 'Exception: if the stamp for example says 'a guilder' or 'one penny', enter 1'.
Value = numbers. That's how I understood it.

Even if a Japanese stamp says '3 千' I will take 3 as face value. After all, who can translate those Japanese characters?千 = thousand.
Just because you happen to be able to decipher the German curls, and know German, doesn't mean you have to interpret the 'value' of the stamp and convert it into Dutch.
I've seen enough that '50 cents' was typed as '0.50 Dollar' on LD.
Isn't 50 cents $0.50 then? Yes, but 'Copy exactly the value as stated on the stamp.' On LD you then type '50'. No more and no less.

In other words: the numbers. And no translations/conversions. Nice if you know that, but you don't have to boast about that on the Internet ;)
Maybe we should replace 'value' in the handbook with 'numbers' if that would be more clear.

For the decimals there is sometimes a problem if there is none on the stamp . eg. a big 5 and two small zeros. That's 5.00. But then you would type '5.00' if the country usually uses the period as a decimal point. And not '5.00'.

These are just appointments. Simply because afterwards Anyone (whether Japanese or Mongolian) could search (and find) not only efficiently, but also effectively.
It has nothing to do with mathematics, accounting or calculations in formulas. Type the numbers there. Always, except in those exceptionally rare exceptions.
No discussion whether a translation agency for numbers written in letters  on stamps should be established on LD or not. Simply: that's the deal.
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Just because you happen to be able to decipher the German curls, and know German, doesn't mean you have to interpret the 'value' of the stamp and convert it into Dutch.
I'm curious what German stamp collectors think about that statement.

It's not about converting into Dutch, but converting into numbers. Numbers are international. Therefore, the exception for all-text values also applies. In my opinion, it only makes sense to apply that to partially numbers represented in text as well. (And yes, so does the Japanese 千, if you have the knowledge to identify it.)
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From a logical point of view it would of course be better to take "a" (gulden), "one" (penny) and "1 Tausend" literally as well.
After all, we already have non-numerical values such as International, December, Forever, First-class, 1st, Worldwide, etc. etc.
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January 26, 2022 21:00
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This is what you get:

And do you have a list per country/region in all possible languages for (thousand', 'hundred', 'million', 'billion', ... ?
Great if a user has to run his stamp through such a translation machine to count the correct number of zeros, and then see if it should be typed in with separator comma, period, or none .. .
In order to never be found again?

If everyone keeps to the agreements made, then everyone can find.
Now you have to present the problem on the forum in the hope that someone else in a creative way, with knowledge of the language, is going to find that seal for you.

Think of the example of '3 千'.
And do you really think that everyone in the world who uses German can read curls, let alone understand?  Can you check with all items from the Chinese, Korean and Japanese areas whether there is no 'value in characters' on the stamp, so that the 'face value' can be adjusted to LD t?
Can users email you an image of a stamp asking where to look in face value?
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January 26, 2022 21:02
Just add: it is not about the catalog value!
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I'm not denying the drawbacks, we just have a difference of opinion on the interpretation of the handbook.
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January 26, 2022 21:21
And luckily :)  That shows that a clear text may not be so clear to everyone. For the user who did not find the seal it was clear. He was looking for something with '75'. Rightly so.
It is simply an agreement.
But, indeed, perhaps the manual should provide a little more explanation there too. With my Japanese example  to make it clear.
I was afraid that I also need to know Cyrillic and Chinese characters in order to be able to collect stamps on LD. Not so. Inflation is not specific to Germany alone.



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stripspeldjes I understand your point, but the proposal of  Raoul62 seems to work better in practice if you look globally. While I'm being laughed at, I also don't think it's clear that you're allowed to write "international 1".

It already happens often that users mistake the Russian letter 3 for the number 3. So let's we make it even harder. Moreover, LastDodo currently only "swallows" the letters of Western Europe and America.

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