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I know this is a tricky topic on every forum or community, but I'd like to raise it anyway. Let's see, by the way, how long this topic will remain ...
What to do with moderators who - at least in my view - rely on their omnipotence to remove or comment on things. Removing entered items because some small characteristic is not mentioned somewhere appears to be more important than enthusiastic collectors who want to display the largest / best possible representation of what exists. It also takes a lot of time and effort for the collectors to want to photograph and charge everything...time that they can spend on other things as well (and whatever I'm going to do from now on I guess)
And you know what's the worst ... I'm so sick of it that I just want to remove everything else that is ok, but I can't.

A collector very disappointed in lastdodo
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fourmirouge

It is not entirely clear to me whether you mean the moderators who only manage the forum or the administrators who manage the catalog.
For the sake of simplicity, I assume you mean the administrators.
I am sorry, as a collector, administrator and moderator, that you are very disappointed with Last Dodo.

Last Dodo started in 2008 under the name Catawiki as a collector's catalogue. Everything that is collectible was and is entered in categories.
The lesson that we as administrators quickly had to learn is that a catalog only becomes functional and well-arranged if you set it up with a clear structure and adhere to these rules.

These rules have been laid down in a handbook by the administrators of categories such as stamps and comics.

The handbook is not intended to dispel the enthusiasm of collectors like you fourmirouge, but to ensure that the items actually exist and are properly represented. This is how we avoid ghost items and incorrectly composed items.
This benefits the quality and accessibility of the catalogue.

We, the administrators, are not omnipotent, but we are accessible. You can always contact us via a PM and possibly call in the catalog manager Tammo (Collectioneur) if contacting would not work or does not go according to plan.


Let's see how long this thread will last...
As a moderator, I would like to add that Last Dodo is certainly open to Feedback and your message, so this topic will not be deleted.

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fourmirouge 
It is not entirely clear what exactly your criticism/disappointment is based on. Have you been in contact with the relevant administrators?
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yes, the reason for removal is because the dimensions of the coasters are not specified ... but I will not measure 1 by 1 for example with 1000+ pieces, and whether something is 92x92 or 93x93mm, there is 99.99% of the cases only 1 format per coaster... anyway, case closed for me, just thought it was super ridiculous that such an administrator would rather deal with that instead of saying thank you for all those contributions. :) 
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You have entered 282 items (Beermats) at LastDodo, as far as I have seen they are all approved, even without measurements.
But I don't quite understand why you don't add the dimensions .
You take a photo, fill in everything, but not the dimensions, takes maybe 10 seconds longer, is not entirely clear to me.
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I take pictures on the assembly line with my mobile phone, I still have about 1500 and can take another 20000 ... I just don't measure them. Anyway, let's stop talking about it, it's just stupid that some disappear and others don't while I've never entered dimensions :)
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fourmirouge "It's just stupid that some disappear and others don't" you write yourself.
Have you ever considered that some items have probably been removed because they are already in the catalog...
And those dimensions have nothing to do with that...
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fourmirouge 
Since you did not respond to requests from the administrator, only 1 item was rejected to find out whether you would respond. It is a pity that you react in this way and do not realize how difficult it is for a voluntary administrator to manage the catalog qualitatively, if not enough data has been entered. This is to prevent duplications being entered.
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fourmirouge 
Actually, are you looking for a secretary who will measure the cardboard for you and fill in the sizes? You are probably still young and inexperienced ... you can still dream.

A thank you (merci) to the administrators, who, in addition to their day job and family, sacrifice all their free time to maintain the catalog well, in a next post would be welcome to restore the balance.
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On the other hand... if the dimensions are so important why is the field not required?

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Boekenmagazijn 
Have you ever tried to make one field mandatory? Mission Impossible.

If I put everything together, one item  would have been rejected, because it was a duplication.

What I see next to it is someone who is not responding to several questions and messages from an administrator. An administrator has spent a lot of time on this. Free, and for nothing. That last one is a pity. That it has been for nothing.


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I always get the creeps with these kind of users, 9 months member, 283 items added, 6 forum posts, sick of shit, stupid... nothing more to add
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How many times have we tried to make the Issue field mandatory for stamps, not a chance.
To come back to the dimensions that he does not include.
Maybe it is because if he doesn't have a ruler or caliper at all, then you can't measure anything, LOL.
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I don't want to jump to any conclusions based on the little information that is known to us here. (And I can't imagine that someone would be so freaked out on the basis of one disapproval.)

I think only the Beermats dictator on duty ;-) can really give a definitive answer about the state of affairs.
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As the devil's advocate, I would like to say this: when adding an item to Beermats there is an explanation for Dimensions, but you will only see this if you actually click on the field.




(And the text seems to suggest that the dimensions should be rounded to whole centimeters...)
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fourmirouge Dude..Take a visit to a massage parlor and don't worry so much that an administrator/modurator comments or disapproves of an addition (that must have happened to all of us) 
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(And the text seems to suggest that the dimensions should be rounded to whole centimeters...) 

You are right, it has been edited.

 I think only the Beermats dictator on duty ;-) can really give a definitive answer about the state of affairs.

I have seen correspondence, it has been handled correctly and we will leave it at that.
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I have to head in such a cross, even if I hijack a silly thread for that :)

You are right, it has been edited.

You can also edit and for the stamp category.
With the statement 'Please use the Western European number format (comma as decimal, period as thousands separator).
This is how they are in the stamp section.
And that's one of the hardest things to explain to someone from Asia who doesn't know English. Costs 'the administrator' a lot of time to adjust each time, with the result: another open review is added.

Same for 'Edition' in the stamp section. If it were a 'numeric' field, then we might not have the thousands separator problem?

btw: I create users who fill it in with a period as decimal, or a comma as thousand separator, attentive to that. I always got a decent answer. Usually it's okay next time. Even with a language problem, it will be okay after a while. It takes a lot of time and energy, but never has a user ignored this, or used me on the forum as a pissing post for that. Lucky me?

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Collectioneur It may be a detail, but Raoul's comment makes me notice that a decimal point is now used in the example for the dimensions. Is that on purpose?
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 It may be a detail, but Raoul's comment makes me notice that a decimal point is now used in the example for the dimensions. Is that on purpose?

That was done on purpose, because it is common practice with the other sections. I don't know about postage.
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Are the dimensions of stamps noted with decimals of millimeters?
Adjustment of the help texts for the fields, please via the super administrator(s). Otherwise I will soon receive conflicting requests for adjustment.
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I noticed this recently. The question to the super administrator has already been asked. that's why I wanted to include 'the cross' in this thread :)
Is it an option to make 'Issue' as a field numeric, so that the user's system settings handle this?
With dimensions it isn't possible.

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After your answer regarding decimal and thousands separator dated 22/5 ('typically a topic for the forum'), the question now comes back to you via the forum ('please via the super administrator(s)') ...
It is in those fields in the stamp section with the Dutch number format. Occasionally I also see that a space is used as a thousands separator on print runs.

If we make it another format I don't know who will go over the almost 800,000 items and adjust ...
If someone does 110 every day, and that for 20 years, then it gets there.
The new ones that are added in those 20 years are not taken into account, of course.

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This has been done on purpose, because it is common practice with the other sections.

Collectioneur Still not very consistent. With Books, the dimensions are separated into two numeric fields (Width x Height). The help text says "Use a period as the decimal separator", but actually both a period and a comma are accepted.
In the catalog, however, those dimensions are again shown with a comma......
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 Not very consistently though. With Books, the dimensions are separated into two numeric fields (Width x Height).

That's right, because the field has a different data type for different headings.
There are also sections with 1 or 2 or 3 (Fossils) entry fields for Dimensions. Yes, there is still a lot of work to be done to standardize things.
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catacrumpie  Dude..Take a visit to a massage parlor and don't worry so much 

What a level....
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