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April 17, 2024 17:31
The definition of Series is now included in the Stamp Handbook
You're a little fast. There are also people who have to work.
There are still a few things that I think should be different.
A Series is an item depicting the individual stamps from an issue......
An issue? What is an issue? I assume you mean issue group. I don't know what an issue means. Or do you mean: A Series is an item depicting the individual stamps that are commonly bought and sold as a whole unit.
If this is useful in practice, because certain stamps are often sold together, an issue can possibly consist of several series.
Issue is also stated here. Does this mean issue group? Or series? Or something else? It makes this sentence completely incomprehensible to me. No idea what it means. But I take it to mean something like:
If this is useful in practice, because certain stamps are often sold together, a series item can possibly consist of several (sub)series. A subseries is a combination of stamps issued on the same day.
If this is correct, I would put it third on the list:

  • A stamp can only be in one Series.
  • Most Series were issued on the same day.
  • If this is useful in practice, because certain stamps are often sold together, a series item can possibly consist of multiple series.
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Sometimes you are too late and other times too early with a decision :-)
I had left issue with a small "u" in the text, but I have now changed it to Issue group.
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April 17, 2024 18:39
A stamp can only be in one Series
In case of both Yvert and Michel series, first come first served?
Tolerate existing cases?

See:
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#2166759 (8 stamps - 1 series in Yvert, 2 series in Michel)
#8720037 (6 stamps - 1 series as included in Michel)
However, with a similar pattern, 15 stamps (if LD is complete, otherwise even more) were issued between 1957 and 1959.

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April 17, 2024 20:01
Example 4
Common sense says: anyway #8720037 merge with #2166759 .
The newest item (the small series) only has 4 collectors, 2 of which also have the complete series. You could send the other two a message.

1959 Animals and 1960 Animals then (according to my interpretation of the new definition) also belong in the Issue group 1957 Animals .
I would maintain #2170227 as a separate series (for practical reasons), but #5525395 , #8723805 and #5525395 not (because not in shops and virtually no collectors), nor #2400339 .

Bee #2170227, the only question is what you enter as the year, because there are 6 stamps from 1959 and 1 from 1960. (See Details for the item.)
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I would do it that way too.
Bee #2170227, the only question is what you enter as the year, because there are 6 stamps from 1959 and 1 from 1960. (See Details for the item.)
The pop-up screen is clear about this. The year stated for a series is the year in which the first stamps of the series were issued. In your question the year would then be 1959. The actual year of issue is then stated for the individual stamps. The hare (as a separate stamp) is therefore given the year 1960. The manual is silent on this in all languages. This also applies to the month and day added later. You might therefore wonder whether the issue date of the first issued individual stamp of the series must/may/can also be entered for the month and day of a series.
Moreover, after all changes in series and issue group, the pop-up screen must be examined critically. According to the screen, postage stamps issued later belong to 1 series with the previously issued postage stamps.
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Is #10366009 (new) a series or not?. I don't know about Honduras, airmail and printing. The issue group doesn't get me any further either.

If it is not a series, how to indicate this?.
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I think it's a series.

Honduras 1974 are mainly recycling issues (prints). Little is known on the exact day they were released.
A bit in the atmosphere and spirit of the times in that country. The terms 'Banana Republic' and 'Football War' were the main products of that country at that time.
You can put them all in one mega series. Then it becomes an unusable item (both from a collector's point of view and commercially). Few have them all. It is best to look and judge, in order to put together series that are feasible (and that contain a primary form of unity or logic).
This is a series of recycling stamps with only an imprint of new value in red or black.
There were also some recycling stamps made in Honduras before 1974 where 'Habilitado' was also printed in addition to the new value. You can also organize them nicely based on that characteristic.
For a number of recycling issues from that country and year, the original value was printed with a black block. I also think it would be fine to consider them as a group (series).

Of course you can also put each stamp in its own issue. Then you ignore the possibilities that are offered, and it benefits no one.
This offers nothing extra for anti-issue users (or disguise fanatics). Except perhaps for the pleasure of blocking opportunities for others without benefiting or benefiting from it.
Logical organization doesn't bother anyone (after all, the individual items are there and you can view them individually). Deliberately not classifying them, as this deprives others of the opportunity to use them.

You could present it to the manager of that sub-area... or make the first person to make the decision the manager... who knows.
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Is not a complete series.
In any case, the Abraham Lincoln stamp L 0.16 is not included.
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May 22, 2024 19:37
Do you mean Yt 518 (Mi 828) Lyonesse ?
I would now dare to place them in a separate solo group.
In addition to the new value imprint, there is an 'X' imprint on the old values. I think the only one that has been recycled in that way (print).
But it can just as easily be placed in a series with the other prints where the old value is overprinted (with a block instead of an X).

The stamps as shown in the example showing Charles1971 merely have an imprint of a new value. No print on the old value, no additional text as print.
Perhaps an even smaller division (red vs. black print of new value) is also possible.

If you cannot submit it to the manager of that sub-area (there is none :)), then it falls under the decision-making power of the super managers.
Anyone who has a problem with the composition of that series and would like to propose (add) another item can contact them.
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By the way, #10366009 still stands as a stamp. That's actually correct, because there are 7 stamp(s).
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Yes, I mean the Yvert PA518 / Michel 828

And I think this one is also part of it, Yvert PA516
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I think I made a mistake, they don't belong. Is a different series.
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May 22, 2024 21:22
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Yes, you could also place all Honduras 1974 prints in one series, but that is of little use to the user (collector, buyer or seller).
I see at least three possible series that are logically put together. That's what I wrote in my first response:
- mere imprint of new value;
- print of new value, with print over the old value (black box or an X);
- new value imprint and 'Habilitado' imprint.

And then there are of course 2 more series in that year for Honduras, which are now (I think) good (as far as the Issue group is concerned):
- overprint 'ENTREGA/IMMEDIATA' (prior stamps) containing #4926705 ;
- the SOS Children's Villages series.

This is just one collector's opinion. It is (in the absence of an administrator for this area) up to the super administrators to decide whether or not the division that users add (by means of series items) is good.
Or a volunteer must offer to become (partial) manager for this area. That is also possible.
If you have any doubts: it is a clear area. Not overly large, and no outliers per year (all fairly limited).
Also not contaminated with illegal issues (as you have with African and Asian countries). And currently relatively spared from varieties on LD

That's it for the promo talk.
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relatively spared from varieties on LD
What do you mean?
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Is it common for a new Issue group to be created for stamps with prints?
Wouldn't it make more sense to include them in the same Issue group as the original stamp without overprint?
So those two from Lincoln include 1959 Abraham Lincoln .
And #10328293 and #8464915 (duplicates?) actually too?!
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What do you mean?
What it says.
In French: "relativement exempt de variétés sur LD".
In English: "relatively free from varieties on LD".

Unlike other areas where there are quite a few varieties. Which does not always result in the simplest of jobs for a 'beginner' who wants to do management.
You don't have that obstacle in Honduras.
Honduras is very suitable as an entry-level area.
Interested perhaps?
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Is this #10367345 now a Series or is this now a Combination from the booklet, so this one #2809255
Same for both of these, #10367335 and #3751415
And what about this one, #10367301 , both of these are in there, #6215837 and #6215831
This is now a series of two combinations from a book.
I do not know anymore :-)
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Lyonesse Here are 3 scans from the Facit catalogue





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I can understand your feeling. It is that the image of nlae provides a lot of clarity.
#10367301 consists of 8 stamps. I would make it a series of 8 stamps. 2 series of 4 are also possible, but I would choose the first. So the series consists of 8 (separate) stamps. It is unclear to me whether the stamps were only issued in a booklet or can also be purchased separately (from sheets with 1 stamp). Out of convenience or unwillingness to separate the stamps (understandable), the two sets of 4 are depicted as a series.
The maximum combination from the booklet appears to consist of 4 stamps (2x). In fact, it is exactly the same as with a se-tenant. I don't understand why the type of combination from the booklet is included separately. I would just delete it from the catalog and just replace it with se-tenant. This also has the advantage that we no longer have to include all those different combinations in the catalogue, I say as a collector and not as a seller. And then we don't have to worry about different rules between the two. The rules of the se-tenant then apply and that all seems simpler to me. I find it irrelevant that the stamps come from a booklet, unless they differ from a regular stamp. But then there are often other characteristics (perforation, for example) that make them distinguishable. And you can always give them as a kind of booklet stamp or stamp from a booklet.
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Is it common for a new Issue group to be created for stamps with prints?

Yes, that is (almost) always done (4,712 times in the stamp section):



Even though the basis is a previously issued stamp, it remains a new issue with that overprint.
In a number of African countries, dozens of recycling stamps have been issued in certain years. Sometimes there are very rare (= expensive) ones.

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When adjusting/adding the definition of 10.14 Series, we forgot to adjust the introduction of 10 Species. That has now been done in version 4.12 . You can find the other language versions here .
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