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Daniel Kushner? Drew Westward Ho! 1943.
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May 16, 2020 11:48

I think Allen Simon signed this version and the story adaptation was by Kushner.

But I don't see that "hero" with the red cape in this version, so I don't think it's the same.

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May 19, 2020 20:36

Is this " Count of Monte-Christo " a V or a T in the story number (third image)?

Ai, can someone delete the third image here , I put it wrong.

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Ai, can someone delete the third image here , I put it wrong.

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May 19, 2020 21:21

A V or a K. A T is for text stories with illustrations and for files.

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May 19, 2020 22:38

A V or a K. A T is for text stories with illustrations and for files.

Hence my question.

For me this is close to a text story with illustrations. The drawings don't tell the story. There are also no speech bubbles. For me these are illustrations for a text, I would make them T.

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May 19, 2020 22:48

a V or K, just look at Tom Poes or Kapitein Rob, same kind of story. A T is for a Kresse story in the Donald Duck

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A V or K formally means that an illiterate person can follow the story reasonably to well with only the pictures. A T means that without the text you no longer have a story. This seems like a borderline case to me.

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May 20, 2020 10:59

Why borderline case, then all Tom Poes, Kaitein Rob and Kresse stories are borderline cases?

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May 20, 2020 13:12

No, at least that's not what I'm writing.

What I am writing is that this Monte Christo story is apparently a borderline case, based on JofefK's observation that "the drawings don't tell the story"

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If there were no frames around the drawings, we would all agree they were illustrations (T).

Now there is a frame around it, which actually does not add to the drawing, and now we call it a comic strip (so T, certainly not K because it has more than 22 pages).

I had already written V all over the place, I just asked not to enter any errors.

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A V or K formally means that an illiterate person can follow the story reasonably to well with only the pictures. A T means that without the text you no longer have a story. This seems like a borderline case to me.

If this indicates the boundary, and this is the only correct definition, then it is very clearly a T. Then we should not doubt it.

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May 20, 2020 15:58

That definition seems a bit too tight and too short.
For me a T is for a piece of text / story to which a (few) drawings have been added for illustration.

If a V is only for those stories that you can reasonably follow by means of only the drawings, then there is no definition for the intermediate form as in Bommel, etc., in which both the text and the drawings are indispensable to be able to follow the story.

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May 20, 2020 16:02

It is also that there is no "strip" of drawings here.

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May 20, 2020 16:17

Just the current text of the Handboek Strips about this event:

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Within Catawiki we distinguish four story types, with corresponding type letter:

  • Gags: (usually humorous) stories consisting of one or more pictures, but no longer than 1 page). Gags are given the letter G.
  • Short Stories: Stories with a length of 2 to 22 pages. Short stories are given the letter K
  • Long Stories: Stories longer than 22 pages. Long stories are given the letter V.
  • Text stories, illustrated or not, are given the letter T.

Please note, it is about the length of the complete story, not how many pages of that story were printed in the publication.


The sequence number indicates the number of story of that type that has been made within the series. Note, G, K and V numbers each have their own sequence number range. A specific series can therefore consist of a V1 and a K1, a V2 and a K2. Example: “Asterix and Cleopatra” is Asterix's 6th full-length story. If this story is in a book, it will always get V6 as the story number, even if it is the only story in the book. Example: “The Pyromaniac” is Franka's 2nd short story. If this story is in a book, it will always be given K2 as the story number, even if it is the 3rd or 4th story in the book.

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According to this text, I also arrive at a V for this type of story.

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May 20, 2020 19:35

If you take away the drawings here, you just have Dumas's story. In other words, a text that stands completely on its own. In my opinion it will not be a comic strip because you regularly put drawings in between.

But no problem, I had already put V there and will therefore continue.

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