Ceramics/bidding yourself17 messages

Dear people, I just got here and I have a question about my offered lots.

Can I start bidding on my own lot, if at the last stage it turns out that my favorite lot is really too little yields? Then I would only have lost the auction costs. Then I could keep the lot myself? Is this allowed or prohibited? Kind regards: Boterbloem777.

If you bid on your own lot, you will receive a message that this is not possible.

It is not allowed and it is immoral.

Let me quote some relevant texts from eBay, which have been dealing with the phenomenon "shill bidding" for some time and explain it nicely:

Own auctions bidding occurs when a seller, or someone who works with the seller, bids on items that they have offered themselves or the bidding by individuals with access to the seller's item information which is not available to the general community. With such bids, the price is artificially inflated and an object is presented more popular than it actually is. This undermines buyers' confidence that [the auction site] is an honest and fair place to trade. It is therefore prohibited to bid on your own auctions.

When you bid on your own auctions, it has negative consequences for buyers, as they pay artificially inflated prices for their objects. . This disrupts the bidding procedure. It is not fair to buyers or other sellers and hurts trust in the trading place.

As an aside: in Firefox I no longer log in to comment on this forum to be able to place. In Chrome it works.

you cannot bid on your own lots

okay, thanks for your responses, it was my concern that some things yield less than you expected, and then I would have preferred to keep it myself. It sounds like there's no way for that.

Some questions about the known route?

Would you like it yourself if you are bidding, and the seller will bid with you ..?
If you don't want to take the risk , don't offer anything.

Dear sir, that is the point, there are no bids, and then I would rather have kept it myself, and no, it is not asking for the known way, I have only just arrived, otherwise I would not have asked. could you have any respect for the new sellers here? thank you sir, have a nice evening.

Beste mevrouw,

Als er niet wordt geboden, dan is dat het risico dat u neemt.
Het is wel vragen naar de bekende weg, want niemand vind het leuk dat de prijs word opgedreven, en al helemaal niet door de verkoper zelf.

Dan moet u richting marktplaats, waar u een vast startbod kan invoeren.

Overigens heeft het weinig met respect te maken, want dat heb ik voor iedereen.
Neem aan dat u zich kan indenken dat het immoreel is als de verkoper de boel aan het opbieden is, dan heeft een veiling bieden vanaf 1 euro weinig nut, als de verkoper toch een vaste prijs in zijn hoofd heeft.

Dear Mrs,

If there's no bidding, that's the risk you take.
It is asking for the known way, because nobody likes that the price is being pushed up, and certainly not by the seller himself.

Then you have to go to the marketplace, where you can enter a fixed starting bid.

Incidentally, it has little to do with respect, because I have that for everyone.
Assuming that you can imagine that it is immoral if the seller is bidding the lot, then bidding from 1 euro is of little use if the seller has a fixed price in mind.

That is not the intention at all, you do not understand.

I do not want to place a bid at all. it was just a question.

Make sure that the seller (family and / or friends) is bidding badly. Prices are really ridiculously high at times. A novice bidder is clearly being fooled here. By the way, I also notice that a lot of the same new items are offered on Catawiki. Deal with auctioneer?

I'm sure the auctioneers aren't making deals here.

If you're going to bid on your own lots in any way, then you better not come here. That is not good for anyone.

Sometimes the prices are very high for an item, this is so bad, because often 2 people are fighting over 1 lot. If you are lucky this will happen. [look at the numbers of the bidders]. Sometimes the same purchased items are also resold, this is legal. New articles is not possible, because a cross is checked that the articles offered are not new. If this is the case, it is your own responsibility.

Make no mistake with bidding yourself. If you win, you will have double auction costs and that can increase considerably

I see curiosities, although I do not know how long all kinds of iron animals and new walking sticks and recently many so-called antique wine boxes etc. That cannot be a coincidence. I really understand that Catawiki cannot do much to people who bid on their own things because this cannot be checked and in the end it also makes good money.

Obviously, I am not in favor of it. I just think it's really sad when people do this. I think it is a shame that there is only a limit of 200 euros, so you sometimes do not dare to offer certain articles. Would be nice if a limit could simply be agreed with the auctioneer. But this will probably be too time consuming.

It is also almost impossible for any auction site to prevent fraud and scams 100%. If only that were true! Ultimately, the buyer must be attentive and not get carried away! Also has a lot to do with goodwill factor (not)!

If you have a lot that is worth more than 500 euros, you can enter a minimum amount. The item may not be auctioned below that amount.

I actually mean that you sometimes have something for which you have, for example, 75 euros in mind and do not want to sell lower than, for example, 50 euros. Now you have to take the risk of having to sell it for 20 euros. I understand that Catawiki is of no use to this because it may be that too much is not sold. Naturally, Catawiki will remain a commercial company.

That is of course also the risk of the auction! It has always been and here you are still protected with a reserve price!

If you have a certain amount in mind and you want it for it, you just have to put it in your Shop. You also do not suffer from commission costs.

Well then you have to stay under 75.00 euros in the shop. It will also make it difficult for you to transfer something in your shop.

Or can someone help me because I have a shop but can no longer find the way to place it.

The auction yes if something could yield 75.00 euros, don't expect it to do that and if you hope for 50 euros then you already run a risk, if you are already under 30 euros, 15% will be deducted from it. Be careful with really good equipment by that I mean that already have a value of more than 75.00 euros.