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September 08, 2014 09:51

For the Tovervisje we have 2761461 from 1949, 2822959 from 1950 (both first editions of a reissue), and 2939277 from 1951 (no edition entered)

I don't see any difference between the three in the photos or description (I may be overlooking it), and my copy has no year or pressure mark. Are these two duplications and one correct entry?

It is also listed in the books as 4216601

There are also two of the same edition of the wonder shell in the compilation albums, plus one in books such as 4325995 .

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September 08, 2014 11:24

Image 2 of 2822959 was in any case stolen from 2761461 (by an auctioneer, foei).

Image 1 of both items not only looks like the same book, but even the same copy , with the same stains and wear.

4267677 seems to me a duplicate too, although I continue the books don't know.

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September 08, 2014 12:10

For the time being removed that back cover for a while and that 4267677 completely removed (just like all other input from that user). I don't understand the publishing history of this series. Only have one particle yourself and I don't think there is a year in it. So at the time I just hung on to the item that was already there.

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September 08, 2014 12:49

For documentation:

Advertisement in various newspapers of September 1, 1949: Piggelmee is back!

Advertisement in various newspapers from October 6, 1949: Is Piggelmee already sold out?

However, I suspect that the reprint is indistinguishable from the first edition.

PS Does anyone know on the basis of what information the gramophone records are dated? I already come across advertisements for this in resp. 1961 and 1962

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September 08, 2014 13:58

The different editions of compilation albums are very difficult to distinguish through the covers. Sometimes they made no effort at all to indicate that it was a different edition and sometimes you can only see this via the colophon (different printer, different address, etc.) or other list of participating companies.

You should almost be obliged to scan this before accepting an alternative print.

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September 08, 2014 14:02

Perhaps this is a resource, Peter?

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September 08, 2014 15:09

Unfortunately for singles no scan3 label where you can sometimes get more from, including speed

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Hello. I'm busy setting up a piggelmee collection and creating order in the chaos (correct sections) I too can't figure out the difference in the different editions of the compilation album Van Het Tovervisje. 1936/7056549 1949/2761461 1950/2822959 1951/2939277 1965/8581699 . How do you get the respective instructions 2nd edition, 1st edition of a reprint, 1st edition of a reprint, no reference, reprint. Is there a great Piggelmee collector who knows more?
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January 13, 2023 23:35
The ANPA website provides basic information, but does not list any specific differences between similar reprints.
Read pages 10-11 and 14-17 of this PDF .

Even if you don't have the books, that's clear #2761461 and #2822959 are duplications, the images are of completely identical specimens, down to the spots. (As I mentioned back in 2014, but that was before the current admin took over.)
#7056549 is definitely not Bound but Softcover.
Bee #7056549 is not indicated by which this "reprint" could be distinguished.

The term "First edition of a reprint" is reserved in LD for the first reprint of the same text in another series or by another publisher. In principle, "The magic fish" with new pictures of the Nans van Leeuwen also falls under this.

PS The Album Type Rope Bound should be renamed "Japanese Binding", that's the correct name.
These Piggelmees do not fall under this category, because they are made in "Cahier stitch" (yarn through the spine, instead of staples). I don't think a separate category is useful for this, they can just be placed under Softcover with an extra entry under Specials.
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#Tacozip #Bookstore #Arco. I've been using my own copies. former collector BM van Uitert, digital KB classified and edited the books and compilation albums (and comics) of Piggelmee. Still open Book of the magic fish 1920. I hope to get my hands on it one day. Book 1971 what really must be 1975 (2x). Compilation album 1936 = 1949, although Moldavite continues to fight despite motivation. I am recommended for comments and of course book van het enchanted fish 1920.
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Don't you know that Arco passed away a while ago????
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#Morits. I'm sorry, no I don't know. I base my opinion on "conversations" on the forum.
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It's nice to have an expert in our midst.
Is everything no correct in the LastDodo catalog then? And which album do you mean from 1920?
I've had a lot of old Piggelmee's including a small album with "colorless" vague mini illustrations, which always made me wonder why they were released. I had many, but knowledge only very globally.

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Harry56 Can you please get to the second edition #2822959 (I see you have it for sale) add a scan of the first page of the story as the 3rd image?
For comparison with the 3rd image of the first edition #2761461 .
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I have to tell you honestly that I didn't eat cheese from those reprints.
And that's exactly where bommelbij could help.

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#harry56 #book warehouse. Dear all. I'm not an expert but an "annoying know-it-all". As it is now in the LD catalog I have processed one-on-one (ie with my own copies). The first story Van Het Toovervischje is not included in the Book Catalog. While the sequel Hoe Piggelmee Groot Werd is there. So I miss that book in my collection.
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You must use an @ instead of #
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#harry56 #boekenmagazijn The first page (without page coloring) of the oblong Magic Fish second edition has been added. I had forgotten that.
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That is beautiful ! I see that with books #3626623 part 1 is in it, in my opinion that is a compilation album given the format, probably a double that is included with the place albums. Is that right ??

#2370127 is that little album meant to be a "coloring book". That is correct under books.


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#harry56. No idea what you mean. The book Toovervischje has not yet been introduced. The compilation album Toovervischje was once introduced by Duckstad and sits? in the collection of antongf. Given the photos on LD, the compilation album Toovervischje is in the right section.
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To be clear: #9562729 is the copy from 1920, with monochromatic brown cover.
I don't know what that date is based on.

Although the KB catalog dates the first edition to 1920, the book in their collection is, in accordance with the digitized version, identical to #2822931 , which in this catalog is dated 1922 (according to ANPA, published in January 1922).
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@harry56 @boekenmagazijn In the section "collection albums" that are ( #9562729 and #2822931 ) so two different albums. The "1920" edition is the compilation album I miss. At "books" the duplicate is included, but the first two stories, hopefully, did not appear. So I miss these two books. I am recommended.
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