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If I try to sort the Series "On the long swell" in the Album pictures section, for example, by "Number or album in series (az)", I will first see all pictures without year (in number order) and then all pictures with year (in numerical order).
You can see the transition at the top of page 3 .

This can of course be remedied by entering the year everywhere, but it remains a programming error.
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This can of course be remedied by entering the year everywhere, but it remains a programming error.

No. This sort order is currently set to:

For the items with entered year, apparently no value has been assigned to the field "Sorting field administrator".
If the sorting "By number in album or series" needs to be changed, w1975 can suggest that to me.
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Okay, I assume only admins can see and fill in that field?!

May I know what is its function exactly? What kind of sorting cannot be achieved with another field?
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March 29, 2023 21:22

This can of course be remedied by entering the year everywhere

And that is where we want to go, a catalog that is as complete as possible

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For the items with entered year, apparently no value has been assigned to the field "Sorting field administrator".

The field "Sort field manager" is used to get the numbering in order and is rarely used with high numbers in a series.

Just to clarify how often the field "Sorting field administrator" is filled in:

Number 1 to number 10:
9 times

Number 1 to number 99:
9 times

Number 1 to number 100:
99 times

As an example, I'll put the numbering as it will run if I don't fill in the sorting field:

1-10-100-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-2-20

If I do fill in the sort field, the numbering looks like this:

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
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Ah, the number field is not numeric, I had already noticed that.
However, that does not explain why the 'Administrator sort field' was not filled in for items with a year (or why it was for items without a year).
After all, that is (according to Collectioneur) why the sorting by number (181-360) does not work properly at the moment.
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Boekenmagazijn Has nothing to do with the year, occasionally you come across one with/without.
w1975 If I follow your reasoning and all numbers have 3 characters (possibly followed by a letter) then it should be either nowhere or everywhere with admin field. So the sorting is really wrong.
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As soon as letters are present in a numbering system, I am once again working on making an adjustment in the field "Sorting field manager" to get everything in the right order.

As an example, I take the last World Cup in Qatar, Panini has often made it a habit in recent years to provide the numbering with letters, such as in this collection FIFA World Cup Qatar . By filling in the field "Sorting field manager" I ensure that the album pictures are as they are in the album.

It is then visible in the correct order if you choose Number in album or series (a - z) and Year (low - high) in the dropdown menu. Any other choice therein provides a display according to the choice made.

then it has to be either nowhere or everywhere with admin field

This depends on the series, there is no science to this. But I'm glad this field is there to put the collections in the right order and that's what it's all about.
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For the record, I didn't add the letters until after I made my first post. It made no difference in the order.

And for those wondering: I added those letters to distinguish the two versions.
Version a is for pictures of the cigarette boxes, the text on the back mentions the 1st and 2nd album (and 360 pictures).
Version b is for pictures of the tobacco packs, the text on the back only mentions the second album (and 180 pictures).
Not all pictures have a back (presumably because they were scanned from pasted copies), so it cannot be determined which variant it is.
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As an example, I take the last World Cup in Qatar, Panini has often made it a habit in recent years to provide the numbering with letters, such as in this collection FIFA World Cup Qatar . By filling in the field "Sorting field manager" I ensure that the album pictures are as they are in the album.

Wow, you did a great job putting those pictures in the right order!
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March 30, 2023 10:58
Looks neat indeed, but if I (as a relative outsider) may make one comment:

If you sort by "Number in album or series (az)" it's not really the order you expect.
The name is already confusing because of the "az" (because the numbering is usually numbers, not letters), but that's understandable because it's an alphanumeric field.
However, a sorting based on an invisible ("secret") field cannot be explained to ordinary users.
It might be clearer if it is not called "Number in album or series", but "Sequence as in album".
(However, I don't know if that causes ambiguity with other series.)

PS I received a personal message from the administrator. The different variants of the Captain Grant pictures will be distinguished in a different way, so that the numbering remains the same as the mention on the pictures themselves. That will be updated soon.
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