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Helv What is your opinion on issue group / description Soviet Union Type 1938-48 (plus stamps)?
https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/areas/158441-sovjet-unie?q2=Type+1938-48
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MDuinmaijer you aren't super specific about what you mean, but I think someone forgot to adjust the Release (group) of the Series.

I would either change the titles to "Postage stamps" (in accordance with the old guideline in the handbook) or use as the title what is actually depicted in the image, e.g., "Pilot" (which is permitted under current regulations).

Now that you bring it up, why not create one large issue group: 1938 Professions, where all issues of these stamps are grouped together?
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I hear quite often Helv that my explanation isn't always very concrete or clear.
I also sometimes hear that I cause some noise; some call me Willem Noise .
I will try to explain it a bit better, although I am afraid it won't make much difference.

Does this concern duplicates regarding:
#6118879 and #8605093 ?
#2161049 and #9553441 ?
Item #2269393 consists of six stamps, but the Yvert numbering states 1910#1911B.
Unfortunately, I don't have a Yvert catalog myself; I definitely want to purchase one someday, so that might be why I view it a bit differently. Currently, I only use Michel Spezial and Zagorsky.

With regard to the issuance groups, in this case the Professions/workers:
I am certainly not opposed to organizing issue groups differently from traditional catalogs. I see plenty of examples that make sense, such as the 7-year issue group.

I need more time to provide a well-substantiated answer regarding a large group of Professions . I have to get up early again tomorrow, alarm set for 3:45, and my knowledge in this area may also be somewhat limited.

My first impression is that the following issue groups could be merged, due to the same top edge.
1948 Postage stamps
However, I find changing the name to Professions difficult, because #8606181 (my favorite — I've been looking for this for years) and #3204989 don't actually fall under that.

Perhaps it is better to merge the groups Professions 1929–1932 (13 stamps) and Professions 1937–1956 (14 stamps) — many are not quite right now anyway.

Finally, a number of loose stamps (year/Michel no.), some of which can be combined.
1958/2138, 1959/2198, 1959/2230, 1959/2231, 1960/2327, 1960/2328, 1960/2362.
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Does this concern duplicates regarding:
#6118879 and #8605093 ?
These are duplicates. Despite the addition of the letter c to the Mi number, this version is known in only one color.

#2161049 and #9553441 ?
These are not duplicates. Multiple color varieties can fall under the Yvert code; with Mi with codes a, b, and c.

Item #2269393 consists of six stamps, but the Yvert numbering states 1910#1911B.
I think this is correct. I don't quite understand why Yvert made this choice, but it concerns: 1910, 1910A, 1910B, 1911, 1911A and 1911B; so six stamps.

However, I find changing the name to Professions difficult, because #8606181 (my favorite — I've been looking for this for years) and #3204989 don't actually fall under that.

Perhaps it is better to merge the groups Professions 1929–1932 (13 stamps) and Professions 1937–1956 (14 stamps) — many are not quite right now anyway.
Personally, I would lean towards "Soviet symbols"; the peasant, worker, and soldier seem to me intended as archetypes upon which the Soviet Union was built.


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May 02, 2026 16:43
Thanks Helv.
Immediately looking for a Yvert. Meaningful and fun too.
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May 02, 2026 19:53
Helv as #2161049 and #9553441 there shouldn't be duplicates, how would you #2161049 then complete it further? Or are you making a basic stamp out of this? If an importer doesn't do that immediately, it's just guesswork afterwards.
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Helv do you want this stamp (see photo) in issue group
1942 Great Patriotic War or
Accommodate 1942 Great Patriotic War II ?
According to Zagorsky, he belongs in the first group, while Michel and Yvert place him in the second. Or would it perhaps be an idea to merge the issuing groups?
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MDuinmaijer I think Zagorsky is placing the 1942 stamps in a single issue and the 1943 ones in a single issue as well. I cannot figure out the reasoning behind Michel and Yvert's choice offhand. In terms of appearance, the stamp looks a bit more like the 1943 one (because of the white bar underneath the text), but the 1 rbl stamp ( #10053743 ) doesn't quite fit in with the rest visually either. The same goes for #8857961 in issue II.

Spivak (the old Soviet catalog) does list them all in a single edition, and this was also adopted by Soloviev. So there is certainly something to be said for that as well.

In all the classifications outlined above, differences remain between the printing techniques within an issue, and multiple designers are involved.

From the perspective of user convenience, I think I would indeed choose to place all stamps in a single issue (group), as seems to have been the Soviet tradition. However, there are no strong arguments against the choice of two issues, in accordance with Zagorski.

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as #2161049 and #9553441 there shouldn't be duplicates, how would you #2161049 then complete it further? Or are you making a basic stamp out of this? If an importer doesn't do that immediately, it's just guesswork afterwards.

as you yourself already say, you can do without #2161049 in hand, do not complete the further details. If the issue remains independent in a smaller format, this is a basic stamp. If the various issues are combined into an issue group, we get the interesting situation where there are multiple basic stamps.

The manual doesn't say anything about that yet. Personally, I would choose to make a variety of it (because most users won't want to measure the small differences). Actually, that gives you 3 layers;
1) "I have the picture", 2) "I have the smaller picture"; 3) "I have the smaller picture and I know exactly what color it is".

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Thanks again for your reply Helv.
I will complete the series first, and then see if they can go together.

Edit: 3 stamps added, series are now complete. Just can't find designer G. Sakharow in the list right now.
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Helv I have completed the professions series from 1937-1941 without a watermark, organized according to Zagorsky. The group can, of course, be expanded further in the future. However, I do not find the name of the issue group entirely clear yet:
1938 Professions: postage stamps type 1929-1932
Would you leave this designation as is, or is “ 1937 Occupations type 1929-1932 without watermark” perhaps a better option?
You previously mentioned “Soviet symbols” as a possible name for a larger group of collectors, while Zagorsky himself speaks of the term “standard editions”.

You cannot properly adjust the serial numbers of the stamps now either, because the issue group is listed as 1938, whereas three stamps were already issued in 1937.

If you don't think it's important, you don't have to respond, of course; it's just a minor thing.
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