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January 25, 2012 12:50

I will list here any changes I have in mind for the import of sugar sachets.

Publisher - must become a Sugar Producer
Series - lines of text on the back
Extra:
Series - For the series of course
number - numbered series
Road:
Text on the packaging
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If anyone has any other suggestions or wishes, please comment in this forum.
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Dear fazerco,

I have been saving sugar bags for years and would like to respond to your proposal for change

Publisher: you enter the type of sugar here. There is no publisher. There is a manufacturer and that field already exists.

Extra series and number: good plan

Road text on packaging: no, don't. The text is very important. It is useful if you can search there too. And also a check if you indeed have the right bag for you.

Pictured: Wouldn't take away either. Especially for people who save on theme, this is a useful field to search.

I would also like to add the search function place name to the mobile version of m.catawiki.nl/catalogus/suikerzakjes. that is the first thing a collector looks at. (well, after the country then). This is not listed and therefore I cannot find anything. Therefore, do not consider it feasible to use the mobile version. That is of course a shame.

For the rest, I think Catawiki is very useful :)

Hopefully this will help you.

Greetings Annemiek de Roo-Straatemans

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February 08, 2012 17:37

As for the publisher field. You also regularly find that nothing at all is entered there. If that is the case, then I say: that field may well be dropped. What does CSN think about that?

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February 08, 2012 20:07

Hi Annemiek,

Nice that you think along. The changes I bring to the table are not going to happen immediately either. I just want to find out among the collectors what might need to be changed, and what my suggestions are.

As far as the publisher is concerned, there are several types of sugars or producers and it is useful if you can also sort by them. I myself have bags that are the same on the front but have, for example, refined granulated sugar or granulated sugar c.s.m on the back. So that's why I want to change publisher. (And now we fill it in everywhere, only changing 15,000 bags is not possible just like that. Everyone can help of course)

You cannot look up the text on the packaging in Catawiki, but you can use it to check a few things, provided it is filled in correctly!

Pictured, I don't know if you've tried looking up this before? It is a difficult thing and just how someone fills it in. If I am correct, there will be a field with a theme, but Catawiki is working on that, and I don't know what it will look like.

So I don't use m.catawiki, but the city name is the first thing you see in the www version. So it could be a bug, but you better report that if you have any problems with the site.

And I don't know what CSN thinks about it, I have no further contact with Harry. I only manage on Catawiki, but someone who has contacts and knowledge of sugar sachets can always register as a manager at Rene.

Mvg, Marco (although this is a forum)

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February 08, 2012 22:10

Text on packaging cannot be searched in Catawiki,

That would be possible if you make the information entered there selectable.

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February 08, 2012 22:33

Sure you're welcome. It must be easy to use such a site.

  • Then I propose to rename the field publisher in type of sugar. refined granulated sugar or granulated sugar c.s.m are both from the manufacturer of Oord.
  • text on the packaging: useful for checking :)
  • theme is a good idea. so you can search there too, handy
  • @arwin: That's the tricky part of this information. It's always different. There is a keyword field, maybe it might be possible to search for it?

:)

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February 09, 2012 08:17

@arwin: that's the tricky part of this information. It's always different.

I know that, it just seems to me that being able to search by text is very important, especially when there are many more coming from other countries.
By the way, you can search by title.
Then it seems to me that it can also be made so that you can also search for plain text that is not in the title.
Maybe someone from the Catawiki team can comment on this?
Otherwise you can consider adding the text on the bag in the title.

Edit:
Keyword is already searchable I see.
That makes being able to search by text a lot less important, I think.

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February 09, 2012 10:38

Just for Mieke, you can sort or search everything that is displayed in blue with a sugar bag. The other ones that just remain black, except for the title.

My philosophy was that if you enter a good scan of the bag, you don't really need any text on the packaging. And moving text on the packaging to title does not seem useful to me either, as there can be quite a few long titles.

What I actually want to know more about the Catawiki team is is the theme also an input field for sugar sachets? And how many fields can you use if we would like to add some more fields? Is there a limit?

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February 09, 2012 10:44

And moving text on the packaging to title doesn't seem useful to me either, as there can be quite a few long titles.

I had made that comment before thinking about those keywords.
Those keywords also significantly increase findability.

Will the theme also become an input field for sugar sachets? And how many fields can you use if we would like to add some more fields? Is there a limit?

In the future, the theme will also be a field for sugar sachets, and we prefer to keep the number of fields as limited as possible.

There is no limit, but all requests for a new field are first placed on a scale.

My philosophy was that if you enter a good scan of the bag, you don't really need any text on the packaging.

With the trading cards I also suggested removing the "Text on card" field again.
In my opinion a nonsense field because every card already has a title.
That field was already added before I became an administrator there.
That was then rejected with the argument that a lot had already been entered at "Text on card".

Later on I also heard from a few collectors that they would regret if that field were to disappear, and it does not get in my way either.

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There is no limit, but all requests for a new field are first placed on a scale.

Hence my request for converting, swapping the less appropriate for what matters.

But there may be more reactions from sugar bag collectors before anything actually changes.

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February 09, 2012 14:38

Hence my request to convert, swap the less relevant for what matters.

Converting is in principle more difficult than creating a new field, because you have already entered information.
Requests for new fields are not only placed on a scale because absolutely no new fields should be added, but because fields that do not add anything discourage entry.
And you don't just remove a field again, so it is important to carefully weigh everything up in advance.
Incidentally, I had not read the entire topic.

This:

Series - lines of text on the back
Extra:
Series - For the series of course
I don't understand.
Either you want to make series a field for " lines of text on the back ", and then a new field for series, or you want a series field twice.
Or you mean something else that I don't understand.
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I don't understand.
Either you want to make series a field for " lines of text on the back ", and then a new field for series, or you want a series field twice.
Or you mean something else that I don't understand.

Series is now used to indicate the back with the number of lines of text on the back. It is not really used in this setup to post a series. There are series, such as the series of castles. The problem is that you have several editions of it with the lines of text on the back already mentioned here.

So what I want is to change series, and a new field will be called series that will actually be used for a series. You can also do it the other way around, but that is more work. Since there are not really many series in it yet and a lot with the lines of text on the back, i.e. the so-called normal fours, violated fives, etc.

So to make it a bit clearer.

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February 09, 2012 17:22

Okay, so the field is now often used for the description of the back cover, but those are not real series.

And what you see as a series are all bags from, for example, a restaurant.

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February 09, 2012 18:55

Uh, so no

http://www.catawiki.nl/catalogus/sugarbags/serie/967591-kastelen

And there are more like cars, butterflies, birds, etc

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February 09, 2012 22:11

Aha

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February 09, 2012 22:40

In the future, the theme will also be a field for sugar sachets, and we prefer to keep the number of fields as limited as possible.

There is no limit, but all requests for a new field are first placed on a scale.

Uh, ah, cough-cough.

It's just to say that there are still sections with such things ;-)

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when can the above adjustments be made? I know a lot of fellow pocket savers and they want to use the best, but then something needs to be improved. including the above proposals.

And the app really needs to be improved, because it is not usable now.

I think if changes are actually made you can get a lot of users / collectors.

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@Miekie, We do have to get started with this because these are important improvements to the sugar sachet section and they have been around for a while. Are you absolutely right. I'm going to see if we can make room for that.

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June 16, 2012 21:36

@Miekie,

I saw in your profile that you also save foreign bags. Are the input fields also good enough for foreign bags? Or do you need anything else for that? The focus is now very much on the Netherlands and especially Van Oordt, which makes sense as one of the largest in the Netherlands.

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@Rene: That would be great!

@fazerco: I also save abroad idd. Although I have not yet tried it out on Catawiki. What I see in the first instance, you can also enter the country and all other information. Looks good. I think it is more important that you should be able to search for that. I don't see that very well yet. And certainly with the app, the search function still needs to be improved a lot. Including searching by country. That's the first thing you do :)

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June 17, 2012 10:56

In my case it doesn't matter much, since I actually only save Dutch bags. But you're right, searching by country in the app would also be better. But otherwise it is still useful, I thought. Or do you have more suggestions for the app. It is better to post them than to say that the app is not usable, so that they can also look at / improve it.

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I have opened a new topic about the app :)

http://forum.catawiki.nl/forums/313- sugar-sachets-general / topics / 8979-sugar-sachets-via-the-app

All additions are welcome :)

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July 18, 2012 18:12

A few extra fields have been added.

Series: Enter the series name here, for example Castles or historic automobiles, etc.

Number: If the series is numbered, enter a number here, otherwise this field can be left empty.

Type of Sugar: For example Granulated sugar or Refined sugar, etc.

Sugar manufacturer: For example C.S.M. or V.C.S., etc.

Theme: Here you can give a Theme, for example Scouting, Cars, Safety, etc. It does not have to be in the text of the bag, but it does have to be related to it.

Just an example bag, 2345599

By the way, I have also made the request to place the type of sugar and manufacturer sugar under manufacturer packaging. The sugar manufacturer in particular breaks up the place, province and country part horribly.

Comments or comments are welcome.

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