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Recently such a tin was auctioned on eBay for about EUR 470. So that's the value

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I recently got a look from the Victoria brand? I was wondering how old it is and if it has any value. But how do I add a photo?

As a Droste collector I agree with Job that the price of that Hopjes Droste tin is definitely worth € 1500.00, I will definitely want to buy it for this price, I have also been a Droste collector since 1970

I also worked at Droste

19th century cocoa tin Droste + steam coffee roaster van Roekel and Martens

Of course my own photo is in the black frame. But not that black frame.

The next day it happened to me with another item, that black frame ..

In both cases, that black frame is only on the first photo !

The following days I entered more items, and that went well.

So without a black frame.

if you enter an item in the catalog and at the same time indicate that that item should also be included in your collection, then that one photo will be included in the catalog and also in your collection. BUT if someone, no matter who, replaces that photo from the catalog with another copy, the photo in your collection will of course remain unchanged, because that is YOUR copy. The photo from the catalog never has to be yours, it is after all a ... wiki.

Moreover, the fact of the photo with the frame, it once again shows that you have put it on yourself. , because another user can never change a photo in your collection.

The 19th century Droste tin is in my collection, new in catalog and new in tins and drums still reduced in size with black frame (1st photo). Only in the catalog itself it is now good. Something must have gone wrong with the technology. It also took an extremely long time before he was admitted.

I also saw a tobacco tin from 1819 !!! from Niemeyer. It doesn't have the look of an early 19th century tin. In addition, the older Niemeyer cans I know

have the name stamped on the bottom and not on the lid. An almost 200-year old tin for sale for 10 euros! A bargain.

Coincidentally, Niemeyer was also founded in 1819.

In the meantime I have placed / replaced the 1st photo again.

Now it is shown without reduction and black frame in the catalog.

I don't know where that black frame came from, at least not

from my archive photos.

It only says' New in Collection 'and' New in Cans & amp; Drums'.

Greetings ISCA

Als je in de historie kijkt, zul je zien dat ook foto 1 echt door jezelf is geplaatst, exact zoals hij er nu uitziet.

Dat item met 2 blikken op één foto is verwijderd, zoals Disney al aangaf. Meerdere objecten in één item zijn namelijk niet toegestaan.

If you look in the history , you will see that photo 1 was also really posted by yourself, exactly as it looks now.

That item with 2 looks in one picture has been removed, as Disney pointed out. Multiple objects in one item are not allowed.

DisneyMeentwijc

On the 1st photo of the 19th century Droste tin there is a large black frame around it

which does not come from me. If that is removed, the can will be twice as big.

DisneyMeentwijc: You are wrong, I sent in a cocoa tin twice.

The first time of Bensdorp (1930) with 2 cans on one photo: 'n large (with city views of Groningen) and' One small one (with city views of Kampen).

The second time by Droste (1890) 3 photos of different views. You say the first photo is too dark, but if you enlarge the photo, the lighting is excellent.

I just see 3 photos in your collection

Why is there only one photo and not all three photos that I submitted for the catalog

shown on my collection list? The data is also missing.

You will understand that if that is not possible, I will not take the trouble to send my collection of old

to very old tins to the Catawiki catalog. .

Regards, Isca

Beste Isca,

het gaat hierbij om de blikken en niet om wat ze afbeelden.

Voor de stadsgezichten is er het veld Reeks als het door 1 merk uitgegeven werd, zoals bijvoorbeeld Bensdorp. Helaas zit die nog niet in de CataWiki Catalogus, maar ze bestaan wel zoals jij al zei.

Het blik van Bensdorp Amsterdam heb ik helaas af moeten keuren, omdat er meerdere blikken op stonden en dat heb ik je dan ook gemeld. Die staat dus ook niet meer in je Verzameling.

De blikken zijn ingedeeld op Merken, Soorten en Reeksen. De merken lijken me duidelijk, waarbij ik wel wil vertellen dat het gaat om het merk van het produkt en niet van de fabrikant van het blik. De Soorten gaan meestal uit van de inhoud van het blik of het type blik. Het veld Inhoud gaat over wat er in een blik gezeten heeft en niet het volume, want dat kan je uitrekenen.Reeksen heb ik, denk ik, aan de hand van bovenstaand voorbeeld uitgelegd.

Er bestaat nog niet een aparte handleiding voor het invoeren van nieuwe blikken, maar ik zou uitgaan van het merk en van daar uit verder gaan met de bovenstaande tips. Probeer zoveel mogelijk in te vullen, zodat een beheerder ze kan controleren en verzamelaars de blikken kunnen vinden. Alles wat je niet kwijt kan vul je in bij de bijzonderheden. Vaak kan je hier ook een extra omschrijving geven, zoals wat er op de niet afgebeelde zijden staat en natuurlijk ook wat er op de wel afgebeelde afbeeldingen staat.

Zolang het veld thema nog niet in deze rubriek voorkomt is dit de beste oplossing die ik je kan geven. Mij is wel verteld dat het thema veld Catalogus-breed wordt ingevoerd en dat is een heel project, dus dat kan nog wel even duren.

Voor vragen kan je natuurlijk altijd bij de beheerders of dit forum.

Met vriendelijke groeten,

DisneyMeentwijck,

beheerder CataWiki Catalogus Blikken en Trommels

Dear Isca,

it is about the looks and not about what they depict.

For the cityscapes there is the Series field if it was published by 1 brand, such as Bensdorp. Unfortunately it is not yet in the CataWiki Catalog, but they do exist as you said.

Unfortunately, I had to reject the Bensdorp Amsterdam can, because it contained several cans and I reported that to you. It is therefore no longer in your Collection.

The cans are classified by Brands , Types and Series . The brands seem clear to me, although I would like to say that it is about the brand of the product and not the manufacturer of the can. The Types are usually based on the content of the can or the type of can. The Content field is about what was in a can and not the volume, because you can calculate that. I think I explained series using the example above.

There is not yet a separate manual for introducing new cans, but I would start from the brand and continue with the above tips from there. Try to fill in as many as possible so that an administrator can check them and collectors can find the cans. Fill in everything you can't lose in the details. You can often also give an extra description here, such as what is written on the sides that are not shown and of course also what is written on the pictures that are shown.

As long as the field theme is not yet in this section, this is the best solution I can give you. I've been told that the theme field will be introduced Catalog-wide and that's a whole project, so it might take a while.

For questions you can of course always contact the administrators or this forum.

Kind regards,

Disney Meentwijck,

administrator CataWiki Catalog Cans and Drums

I wouldn't be wrong with a subsection for city views (and villages).

Now I have 2 old cans of Bensdorp with city views as you know.

The big one with Groningen 3x and a small one with Dordrecht 3x. In the catalog

there is one with another cityscape. Now I wonder where go

that fall under? Old tins, Cacao tins or cityscapes? I would think that the latter is wrong ..

Thank you for your response.

I suspected this could be a fairly old drum, judging by the images and shape. In any case, it is a beautiful copy. Do you have an idea of the value?

The "Anno 1842" does not refer to the tin, but to the foundation of the company Coelingh & amp; Zonen.

Coelingh & amp; Zonen was absorbed by major competitor Bussink shortly before WWII.

Considering the fact that the stamp only mentions confectionery and no cake (from 1906 they also made 'Deventer cake' and was very proud of it) it seems a fairly old tin. My first conservative estimate is 1900 or earlier.

I just added the drum to the catalog.

Please put that drum first in the catalog .

I have a nice, large drum from Coelingh & amp; Sons from Deventer.

Dimensions: length 32 cm, width 24 cm, height 15 cm. In the drum is a seal that reads, among other things, "anno 1842". It is not clear to me whether the drum was manufactured in this year. Does anyone have any idea of the value and "year of manufacture"?

Unfortunately, I now notice that I cannot post photos here. Can someone explain to me how to do this?

Thank you in advance!

Strange that there is so much to do here about a list price, while comics (and if I'm not mistaken also stamps) are no longer updated at all, due to a lack of moderators.

I understand the problem. I myself have been a can collector since 1969 and because of this and through my interest I have gained knowledge over time, especially in the field of Droste, my specialization.

In November a booklet about Droste's cocoa cans will be published my hand.

A third hop can from Droste - which I hope I can buy again - can pop up anywhere, not only at a marketplace or at an auction, but also at a fair or in an antique store.

The fact that you have not been able to find any information about the value of the can on the internet is also an indication that it is a very rare tin packaging from Droste.

I guarantee that the values I have provided to Catawiki for this can are a good representation of a yield on the current market. I have already indicated that I would like to buy such a can in good condition for that amount. By the way, there are more Doste collectors where that applies.

I still dispute your statement (that it was not a realistic price that the installer of the can on Catawiki).

It is a pity that as a moderator you nevertheless want to withhold that value and information from Droste collectors, can collectors and other interested parties.

So be it, I am does not agree but closes the discussion.

I have removed the price from this tin because I could not prove that this price was correct. I did not receive an answer to my question to the importer on which the price was based and I did not find any comparative material on the internet. In such a case, the best solution is to remove the prize. This is partly because, especially in the early days of the auction, objects are placed in the catalog with unrealistic prices only to raise the auction price.

To avoid disappointment among bidders and providers, these types of prices have been removed. The disadvantage of this is that it is possible for everyone to enter a new price afterwards.

If you can demonstrate that the value of the tin in question is in line with the market, by means of auction results, for example, then we will be happy to adjust the price. But with a small explanation in the details field why the list price is justified.

This example shows once again that it is difficult to paste a value into a collector's item and for price moderators to adjust values based on price suggestions.

Yes, indeed, precisely because that is the strength and structure of the Wiki system, I responded and also provided a new price suggestion for the object in question.

Just a pity that I have not responded to that yet have received or. have seen addition.