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How can I access a series that has already been added to LastDodo and from e.g. 48 bands exist, indicate a price suggestion in 1 x, which is then stated for the entire series with each individual band? Now you have to do this for each band individually, which is a grueling job.
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June 20, 2022 16:14
sigarenbandje 
Price suggestions can only be entered per item.
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June 20, 2022 17:13
Select the series, and indicate "add bulk". (top right.
On the bottom bar, select add bulk - green check marks will appear. 
Go to the bottom bar and select "shop"  - Here you can possibly indicate that it is a combination offer - et voila
Sucess
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June 20, 2022 17:53
uohout , it's about sigarenbandje reading to do it for price suggestions for the catalog items and not for his shop.
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Correct assumption Rene.
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June 20, 2022 19:12
About 9 moons ago I wrote:
A while ago I also thought 'abolish that trade' (I mean the series items). But it offers comfort and grip. In other words, there is an added value.

Why this is not used in Cigar bands ... we believe that serial items would boost sales there. And it would be easier to roll out the 'coat rack' for new series. Those are now being added with one tape, in the hopes that someone will add the other later under the correct series name. There are such 1-item series with the bands that have been waiting for their addition for 10 years.

At the risk of getting the lid on the nose...
Rene Martinel
Is there a good reason why 'series' is not allowed as an item in the section 'Cigar bands'?
I have always taken the statement 'It is an exception that is only allowed in the Stamps section' to be true and have not questioned it further.

My initial dislike for those items has gradually turned into a kind of enthusiasm. Because as an administrator you can place that guide (the complete overview in one image) in an additional screen, while you try to match the puzzle in the original screen.
Also, if everything is in order, you can use a selection on 'series' make a nice  shortened visual overview per year (much fewer screens). If 'Bingo' you only have to click on the issue name and you have just about everything from that issue together (if available on LD). For users: functional. A fun and effective way to search the database.
You could eg also add a field 'Issue' ... within which a 'Series' item with the individual tapes next to it as an item.
Example issue: ' 1966 Cat Parade Ieper (thin print) - Green'.

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June 20, 2022 23:36
Is there a good reason why 'series' is not allowed as an item in the 'Cigar bands' section?
I always have the statement 'It is an exception that only allowed has been accepted as truth in the Stamps section and has not been questioned further.

That's also true Raoul62 :-)
The series were in the C-A-R file that we used in the beginning to start up the stamp section. The providers we had on the platform at the time wanted to include those series items as well, because stamps are often sold per series. So for practical reasons.

But it might be a good idea for other sections that are somewhat comparable to stamps, such as cigar bands indeed. Do more people need this?
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Uh...no.
From a catalog standpoint, series items (actually series items) are on-things. They are advertisements.



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Clear point of view.
Then a price indication based on 'series' in the section Cigar bands will not be possible.
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You have a bit of a point there, but you do have an idea of what the maximum price for the series should be. Suppose the set price of a single tire in good condition is 0.10 Euro in a series of 24 tires, then the reasonable maximum price for the series is 2.40 Euro.

In your example of the sequence Kattestoot Ypres you should also provide 6 sequence items: 1 for each of 5 colors & 1x of the complete set of 70 (5 colors x 14 items). Apart from that, what criteria do you set for the image of a series? from 70? You don't get all 70 on an A4 etc. etc.

To get back to stamps :-) :

Take for example the Japan issue 2020 Goedgeluk stamps : 10 stamps in the series and 4 possible 'series' items of which 2 are already (approved) on the LD site.
For me personally this is proliferation and you better your energy as an administrator to point out the functionality combination offer.

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Martinel  Oh ...  glad someone is talking about stamps again :) :) :)

It works that way for the Japan collector. They are very happy with it.
Japan = a lot of stamps per year. The 'shortened' overview (selection by series) is great when looking up.
Searching by face value in other areas is genius, but you can hardly use it in Japan ... you will only look up a stamp with value 80 on it. ..

That it also saves enormous time for the administrator (because he can place the series overview next to it as soon as the loose stamps arrive), and it is easier for sellers to complete 'series', originating from Offering multi-items (blocks, booklets and/or sheets) in an organized manner is just a bonus.
Actually, a Japan issue always consists of several 'multi-items' (sheets, blocks and/or booklets). Sticking out different issues (with I, II, II, IV, ...) separately is nerve-wracking for a user. Then he has to click on different issues in different panes for the total picture in order to get the puzzle together. With one issue, using 'Tracking number in issue' (in a way it's intended: tracking NUMBER within type)  you can structure the whole mess beautifully. Accessible via ... the short overview, after which you immediately get an example of how you can put them in your album as a collector.

No, it is not a loss of energy. Whoever collects Japan is therefore happy that it can use LD.
6 months ago, from 2020 there was almost nothing in the Japan catalog. Then the first 'series' seeped in, and they are now almost all neatly filled for 2020. Even 2021 is starting to add up nicely.
Users find (in a large lot of kiloware) some Japanese stamps and can now finally mark them effectively in their collection, or add them on LD if missing!
Works well, there's almost no duplication in Japan that way.
And if collectors enjoy using LD in managing their collection, then I think the LD mission has been accomplished.  Stands on the main page of LD: 'for collectors'. The same collectors then don't let go of LD to fill the gaps (buy items to complete a series), and the shop owners are quite happy with that: they are only too happy to fill those gaps in the catalog.

In one sentence: it works fine and pleasant that way.
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It will be quite a story, but I will try to describe what I said. When LastDodo was still Catawiki, you could pass on a price suggestion to the "administrators" of the cigar bands section. They could then easily enter the price suggestion for all individual bands of the series. These had to do with a series consisting of e.g. 99 bands cannot be re-entered 99 times for each band. Saved tons of work and made the indication of the value of the collection much closer to the correct value. Now about half of the values are not counted.
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sigarenbandje : It (unfortunately) never worked as you describe. The buckets of work have always been there: every price is entered item per item.
It would of course be nice if the functionality existed to be able to adjust/fill in a number of fields within a certain selection in 1x at administrator level.
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