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#908483 does not contain a photo of the label, while several variants exist with the same cover and same label number.

The original importer is no longer part of the LD community. There are 4 other users connected and I obviously have no idea whether they all have the same variant as me.

What should I do?
1) Supplement the existing item with the data of my variant;
2) Create a new item.


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I don't think it is possible to find out which one it could be.
The one that is now at LastDodo from 1973 with Release Number 31001 could be this, EMB 31001 with an Orange Label and it could be EMB S-31001 with more of a light green Label.
So I think you have one of them in your collection, so I'd say enter new.
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January 01, 2024 22:19
Helv

Just add to it, the others may or may not have had any interest in it, not even in their own collection.
There are a number of people I can contact if they still have an item in their possession.
which I do regularly
That's why I'm happy that Collectioneur has arranged that I can now approach those collectors again through history.

just adjust the conclusion
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January 01, 2024 22:55
Dick52 I'll edit it later. Thank you.
And thank you Lyonesse of course.
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Adjusted the plate a bit #908483
If something had gone wrong, see History
I also made a song from Track 2A and Track 2B.
Just don't know if you can also add the A and B sides of the records yourself, ask Dick52


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January 02, 2024 12:16
Lyonesse I meant to add pictures of the labels. Apparently I did something wrong there too. The photos are now included.

Track 2 a) and 2 b) are stated as such on the label of side A.
Why don't we adopt that?

How do you know who is the composer/arranger and who is the lyricist? Is that ready knowledge/experience? I don't just get that information from the record or the Internet.
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I know Track A2 is listed on the record as two Songs but it is one Song, see #6664207 and #4655439
I wasn't entirely sure either, but I requested it at my home on Amazon, where I can call up 77 million songs. This song is played as one song with both titles mentioned.
Speaking of the Composers, Lyricists and Arrangers, yes, this is years of experience and if I don't know it, I look it up, I know where to look over the years, it's not that difficult.
I think just about every song is discussed on the internet.
And especially the Jazz Songs, which can often be found at Copyright Control, where I think millions of songs are described.
And speaking of the Arrangers, I only copy them from the Cover or Record
As an example, the record you entered is on the record, Arranged and Conducted by Peter Matz
So he is the Arranger and the Orchestra is under his direction but it is not his Orchestra otherwise it would have said, Peter Matz & his Orchestra. There is a difference.
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January 02, 2024 22:22
Lyonesse and Dick52 just in the same thread. This time about #9321577 .
I have the exact same album, but without the NLC sticker.

Add an extra image to an existing item?
Or a new item?


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Hi, then it is a cover variant
release number is of book and record

I'm still trying to figure out what NLC stands for

no one knows the answer to that until now

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NLC stands for Dutch Readers' Center
Forerunner of Boek en Plaat
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Lyonesse and Dick52 I think Dutch Readers' Center was already an alias at NLC.

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January 03, 2024 00:23
Forerunner of Boek en Plaat
That is actually strange, because the NLC sticker seems to have been pasted over the Book and Record logo. But of course it is now difficult to find out exactly how these things turned out.
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You're right, Mark NLC was already on LastDodo, I hadn't seen it yet either.
I looked up the name on the Internet and came across Discogs.
By the way, the name NLC was first suggested by Dick himself, back in 2012.
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Lyonesse NLC maybe, but I can't see who added the alias. It does not seem to be a real alias, but an addition within the name itself.
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Lyonesse or Dick52 I can't tell the difference between #746161 and #785775 . Before I report this as a duplicate, I think it would be more useful if you take a look at it.

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Lyonesse Helv
Yes, that name of NLC is indeed on the net
Only the logo makes no sense
NLC was jointly/taken over by Boek enplaat and later ECI
And I think that was also part of the German book club

NLC can also be Dutch Listening Club or something like that
Haven't found anything yet
And those who have been members and still have a membership card or something will quickly deteriorate
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Helv Lyonesse
I personally think NLC
Dutch Linguaphone Club
Don't ask me why I think that
But somewhere very far in the background it is in my memory

Because C for Central (I think for book buyers)?
Readers does not match logo
And as a rule, NLC records are older
And has anyone come across a book published by NLC yet?
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Helv Lyonesse

I can't tell the difference between #746161 and #785775 . Before I report this as a duplicate, I think it would be more useful if you take a look at it.
(785775 the original entry unfortunately almost never placed the label and has entered quite a lot of items)

There is a difference, not much, but the question is do we want to include these types of differences separately?
Frans has already indicated: this is going too far for me!
I think differently about that myself, but then everyone has to point out the differences. (one of the labels is placed lower/higher, these are readable scans, which is the advantage)

but as long as #908483 the original entered did not place the label, these kinds of differences make no sense and I would simply choose double
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January 03, 2024 11:39
The old NLC discussion is here .
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From the discography of Conny van den Bos.
NLC (Dutch Readers Centrale)
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January 03, 2024 13:22
Lyonesse

that gives a little more support
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Helv
The problem with this one #746161 and this one #785775 input is that the Label will be added later.
The original editions have, as I can see, 4 or 5 different labels from the 1976 edition.
But now because they added the same label to both albums, they are reissues from 1980 and no longer from 1976.
My conclusion when I see something like this with many photos added later is that one must be very sure whether it is the same plate, otherwise do not post new photos.
And if an Administrator sees something like this and is not sure whether this is correct, they reject that trade.
As I see it, this is a conversion of an existing item, ask in the Postage Stamp section how they think about such a thing.
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Lyonesse Helv
the comparison with stamps is not valid!
the problem from the start has been no mandatory 3 scans minimum
I think it took 8 years or more before the 2nd scan became mandatory
the third scan last year is mandatory!
so there is no question of changing the cat
we (management) could not disapprove, it was not stated anywhere that it was mandatory

take this and then select 2 scan

Eurovision Song Contest music catalog - LastDodo


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Of course I know that it was not mandatory to also post a photo of the Label and that it took a long time before it became mandatory, and that this is a lot of progress.
But the comparison with the stamps is valid, they call something like that at Tanding Getand, for example, and nothing can be done with that.
These are the items that are for collectors who are not that interested in what they have, but not for real collectors.
To return to these two items, they have been converted from an item released in 1976 to a Reissue from 1980.
Here is an example of a 1976 Label, but it looks a little different.
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January 03, 2024 16:25
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Have not been converted
if it is changed, an image or adjustment has been made where the original input has been changed, incorrectly.
Only image 3 was never posted so nothing was done wrong (changed)
The only thing is the year, but we all know that this is a difficult thing.
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