When I wanted to add my Star Wars action figure collection to Catawiki a while ago I found out that there were some figures on the site but that there was no consistency at all in the way they were entered. In fact, it wasn't even possible to generate a list of action figures.

I have now looked at all Star Wars items and made so many adjustments that lists are now available in different ways. However, the question is whether this was done correctly by me. Through this forum I would like to discuss the correct way of introducing Star Wars action figures with other collectors.

I have created a main sequence entitled "Star Wars 3 ¾" action figure line "which includes all vehicles, playsets, monsters etc that were created for the 3.75" action figures.

Not all subseries yet, as there are;

1977-1985 Vintage Kenner

1995-2000 The Power Of The Force

1996-? Shadows Of The Empire

1998-1999 Episode I

2000-2002 Power Of The Jedi

2002-2004 Saga Collection

2004-? Original Trilogy

2005-? Revenge Of The Sith

2006-? The Saga Collection

2009-? Legacy Collection

2009-? The Clone Wars,

have been entered because there are not yet entries for all subseries.

Until now I have grouped dolls under type "Action Figures", the rest (vehicles (possibly with doll), monsters and playsets, etc.) under "Miniatures" so that they can also be split.

I have plenty of questions and for help from Catawiki's side we all have to come to a kind of democratic decision about the course to be taken.

Questions:

1) Do you agree with the main series / sub series subdivision? For example, I should have used them the other way around. There is something to be said for this because many series also contain items other than action figures, such as Die Casts and Gentle Giants.

2) Catawiki is about to add Vehicles and Playsets to the types, unfortunately monsters still fall under the prevailing definition of action figures. Will they remain thumbnails?

3) What to do with figures released in different subseries. For example Leia in Boushh Disguise: the exact same figure has been released in both the Shadows Of The Empire series and The Power Of The Force.

4) How to deal with the “Number in range” option? Now I have used the well-known 5-digit American (and universal) article numbers as much as possible. In a number of series, such as the blue Saga series and the Revenge of the Sith series, the figures also have a series-dependent number. Of course it is nicest if they are both mentioned, but then how? First the series dependent (as now in the Saga Collection (2002-2004)) or first the universal?

I can come up with many more questions: should there be room for races, planets, in which movie the figure appears, etc?

Please comments / input!

3) Wat te doen met poppetjes die in verschillende subreeksen zijn uitgekomen. Bijvoorbeeld Leia in Boushh Disguise: het exact zelfde poppetje is uitgeweest in zowel de Shadows Of The Empire reeks als in The Power Of The Force uitgekomen.

Als het poppetje hetzelfde is, maar de verpakking verschillend mag hij er gewoon twee keer in hoor.
Kijk maar naar 1548471 en 1398809. Da's 100% exact hetzelfde ezeltje, maar de ene zit in een doosje van de efteling en de andere in een doosje van Super de Boer. Als compleet item (inhoud+verpakking) worden het dan als twee verschillende items beschouwd.

3) What to do with puppets that came out in different sub-series. For example, Leia in Boushh Disguise: the exact same doll has appeared in both the Shadows Of The Empire series and The Power Of The Force.

If the doll is the same, but the packaging is different, he can just go in twice.
Just look at 1548471 and 1398809 . That's 100% exactly the same donkey, but one is in a box from the Efteling and the other in a box from Super de Boer. As a complete item (content + packaging) it will be considered as two different items.

See, that makes a difference again. Thank you for thinking along pegag!

1. At the moment this section also contains other Star Wars items such as statues, busts. Then the main series "Star Wars 3 ¾" action figure line "seems like the right name when you start looking for action figures.

2. Whether a monster is not part of a playset, I think it falls under Action Figure.

4. The universal numbers appear on all issues. It is best to mention this one first.

@ SBanga

Thank you for thinking along!

1 Thoughts

2 I was looking for a way to split eg the Rancor, Taun-Tauns, Jabba, etc from the regular (card sold) dolls. Isn't thumbnail a more convenient choice?

4 Indeed, I tend to!

Thanks !!!

2 I was looking for a way to split eg the Rancor, Taun-Tauns, Jabba, etc from the regular (card sold) dolls. Isn't thumbnail a more convenient choice?

Although I understand you want to set them apart, I strongly advise against this.

The thing is, this is a wiki site, and other people can improve your input.

The description for thumbnail is:
" Reduced representation of an object, structure or vehicle. Model cars may only be placed in the" Model cars "section, not here. "

That just doesn't include monsters, so you run the risk of others improving it, and shattering your entire system.
Not everyone will understand why you did it.

The safest thing to do is to create a "Star wars monsters" theme.

Arwin, that's clear, but a bit of a shame. On all Star Wars collection sites, a distinction is made between the action figures and the monsters / creatures, but it is also possible with such a theme. Only then should all action figures get a counter-theme again if you really want to be able to split them ...

With themes you can of course also enter races / planets / which film, etc. Is it useful to start those themes with the words Star Wars?

thanks for your input!

By the way, I also received an email from Vossinix about variations, I will ask him to have that discussion here too!

Hi Daan, on request my reaction also in the Forum

good idea to make lists that series are / will be retrievable, you can request them eg per producer, but this way seems a good addition to me. Also correspond with the name in the Star Heroes Collector guide (or is that a coincidence) I would like to see the variations of the same figures separately in catawiki (now there are two same but different variations of Yoda that I have in lined together, I just saw)



Greetings, vossinix

Vossinix,

Glad you approve and well ... I don't know that guide, where did you get it?

About those variations; I am not a big supporter of this myself, of some figures there are 30+ variants and then the database becomes very confusing. Many people also only have the figure while the variation was on the card ... you can of course place the variants with a photo in your personal 'my collection'. We can mention the variants under 'special features' as I did with the Jawa for example.

Perhaps a kind of 'Main Series' can be provided, as with many comic series in Catawiki. Under the main sequence then all general figures once and the variants a bit deeper, that you can only find them when you search for them.

About those variations; I am not a big supporter of this myself, some figures have 30+ variants and then the database becomes very confusing

The essence of Catawiki is that variants are named and described. It does not matter that the variance is sometimes on the map and not on the figure. The only exception to this are stickers and the like. A card with a sticker is the same as without a sticker.

Under the main sequence then all general figures once and the variants a bit deeper, that you can only find them when you search for them.

Unless I misunderstand you, this solution is not going to work because it does not fit the way Series are organized within Catawiki. For example, a main sequence within figurines is "Kenner-may-the-farce-be-with-you (1991-1992)". But by definition it contains all variants. Below that you can hang subseries such as "name misspelled on card" "and" logo-is-purple-dotted-red ". attached to the main sequence, if there are subseries, each item must belong to one of the subseries.

The general name of the doll must always be in the name field. There is Yoda, so you can select all Yoda figures (and playsets that include Yoda).

Hoe jullie die mooie grijze tekstvlakjes krijgen om duidelijk te maken waar je op reageert is me niet gelukt (graag een lesje hierin)

Voor Daan, de Star heroes Collector is een catalogus van action figures van Star Wars en Star Trek, staat 3x inmiddels in |Catawiki bv nr 543533.

Daar stonden benamingen van series in die ik had ingevoerd, maar die zijn inmiddels gewijzigd zie ik in de subreeksen die jij aangeeft.

De subreeksen die jij aangeeft en overeenkomen met de reeksen in de Star Heroes Collector bestaan weer uit meerdere series en die benaming heb ik gebuikt bij het invoeren.

Ik weet niet of deze Collector Guide de echte officiele Guid is, zoja lijkt het mij goed om deze reeksen/subreeksen  aan te houden.

Ook de belangrijkste variaties staan genoemd.

Ik kan alleen maar toejuichen hoe meer variaties , voor mij hoe beter (geld trouwens voor alle rubrieken) in het begin zijn er door mij ingevoerde autominiaturen  wel eens verwijderd of samengevoegd omdat ze al met een andere kleur in de catalogus waren ingevoerd.

How you get those beautiful gray text areas to make clear what you are responding to, I did not succeed (please take a lesson in this)

For Daan, the Star heroes Collector is a catalog of action figures from Star Wars and Star Trek, is now listed 3x in | Catalog BV nr 543533 .

It contained names of series that I had entered, but they have now been changed, I see in the subseries you indicate.

The sub-series you indicate and correspond to the series in the Star Heroes Collector again consist of several series and I used that name when entering.

I don't know if this Collector Guide is the real official Guid, if so it seems good to me to keep these series/subseries.

The most important variations are also mentioned.

I can only applaud the more variations, for me the better (money for all categories by the way) in the beginning, car miniatures entered by me were sometimes removed or merged because they were already entered in the catalog with a different color.

@Pegag

Ik weet niet of we het over dezelfde hoofdreeksen hebben. Als ik via bijvoorbeeld Catawiki > catalogus > strips > Asterix bekijk dan zie ik alle titels 1 maal met daarboven de vermelding:

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Op dit moment wordt een selectie getoond. Klik hier om alles van 'Asterix' te zien.

@Pegag

I don't know if we are talking about the same main sequences. If I look at, for example, Catawiki > catalog > comics > Asterix, then I see all titles 1 time with the following statement:

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A selection is currently displayed. Click here to see everything from 'Asterix'.

Ik heb even overlegd met vossinix en het bekeken, en het gaat om deze Yoda

In de verzameling van vossinix is nog te zien welke vossinix nog meer had ingevoerd.

Het is absoluut niet de bedoeling dat dit soort variaties worden samengevoegd tot 1 versie.
Dit lijkt me een vergissing van een superbeheerder van voor de toelichting van Daan, en is de variant gezien als een incomplete versie van de andere.
Misschien was ik het zelf wel, maar kan het me niet meer herinneren.
Hoe dan ook, dit is niet goed gegaan.

Edit, ik zie nu in de historie dat er eerst stond "versie 2, oranje slang"
Dan begrijp ik echt niet waarom hij is samen gevoegd.
Bij versie 1 stond ook vast uitleg dan, aangezien ze beiden door vossinix zijn ingevoerd.

Zoals Pegag al zegt:

De essentie van catawiki is dat varianten benoemd en beschreven worden.

@ Daan

Je hebt bij bijzonderheden van dit item geschreven:

Variaties bekend in; 
1) Verpakking. 
2) Fabrikant en/of land van herkomst. 
3) Kleur: er zijn veel kleurverschillen bekend, de bekendste zijn de kleur van de slang (bruin of oranje), de kleur van de ogen (zwart, bruin of lichtbruin) en de tint van Yoda (donker naar licht). De meest voorkomende variant is de lichtgetinte Yoda met lichtbruine ogen en oranje slang. 

Dat is heel mooi, en je hebt het bij meerdere items gedaan.
Maar eindig dan steeds even met "Dit is versie ....." (en op de puntjes dan de info) 

Dat voorkomt misverstanden.

Hoe jullie die mooie grijze tekstvlakjes krijgen om duidelijk te maken waar je op reageert is me niet gelukt (graag een lesje hierin)

Een tekst selecteren, en dan op die aanhalingstekens klikken in die blokjes boven je bericht, links naast dat linken blokje.

I consulted with vossinix and looked into it, and it's about this Yoda

In the collection of vossinix you can still see which other vossinix had introduced .

It is absolutely not the intention that these kinds of variations are merged into 1 version.
This seems to me to be an oversight by a super admin before Zane's explanation, and the variant has been seen as an incomplete version of the others.
Maybe it was me, but I can't remember.
Anyway, this didn't go well.

Edit, I now see in the history that it first said " version 2, orange snake "
Then I really don't understand why it was merged.
Version 1 also had an explanation, since they were both introduced by vossinix.

As Pegag says:

The essence of catawiki is that variants are named and described.

@ Dan

You wrote in the details of this item:

Variations known in;
1) Packaging.
2) Manufacturer and/or country of origin.
3) Color: Many color differences are known, the best known are the color of the snake (brown or orange), the color of the eyes (black, brown or light brown) and the shade of Yoda (dark to light). The most common variant is the light-skinned Yoda with hazel eyes and orange snake.

That's very nice, and you've done it on multiple items.
But then always end with "This is version ....." (and then the info on the dots)

That prevents misunderstandings.

How you get those beautiful gray text areas to make clear what you are responding to, I did not succeed (please take a lesson in this)

Select a text, and then click on those quotation marks in those blocks above your message, to the left of that link block.

About that main series, which is confusing enough with the comics, many people do not understand that.
With the figurines it is only useful for a few series, which will only cause more confusion.
And I'm not even talking about the fact that we have the images, main sequence and sub sequence as actual input fields.

Then the confusion is completely complete of course.

The best thing is when the version is clear from the title.

And yet I maintain that entering all possible variations and so that there are no more general figures is a lot more confusing.

Many variants are very difficult to distinguish and to be honest, sometimes very far-fetched. Sometimes you need a certain microscope to measure the spacing between letters on the legs of the figures or to measure the light reflection in order to know with which paint the figure has been colored. I would also like to point out again that many collectors no longer have the cards to determine which "variant" they may or may not have at home. As mentioned above at Yoda, that figure is made in many different shades. How much? Does anyone know that and how do you describe a shade and if by chance my figure has just been in the sun for a day longer, will I ever find out more?

Many collectors, like myself, like those variations, but they don't really matter. I can still enter a completely different mold such as the Takara 3PO or the different heads of Han Solo, but why do I have to study whether the doll comes from Taiwan, Hong Kong or China and then from which mold ...... ... To be honest, I think that is quite silly! But everyone has their own interests.

If only well-educated collectors can enter their Star Wars collection, a lot of people will drop out, I'm afraid. At least I do!

I understand what you are saying Daan.

I also think your arguments against doing it are strong.
And let me be clear, I don't think it necessary to add the minimal variants.

But we have agreed for the entire catalog that we always have all variations of items entered.
You don't have to enter them all from me.
But if someone comes along who does want to introduce them all, then we really have to accept that, because that is entirely according to the agreed rules.

Arwin says it like it is, it doesn't make life easier for administrators either, but Pacta sunt servanda.

This appointment is also just a good appointment.

Otherwise you will have a whole discussion about which variant is and which is not.
Where do you draw the line?
Who are we to determine that?
Such a thing is purely subjective.

That would really complicate the life of administrators.

I just see this comment from Daan

At themes you can of course also enter races / planets / which movie, etc. Is it useful to start those themes with the words Star Wars?

That's useful indeed.
There is a good chance that the name will be changed later, but then the person who converts everything to a central theme register can at least ensure that they end up in the correct theme group.
Star Wars will have its own theme section in the future, where we will show everything from Star Wars (books, films, figures, etc.) together.

You also prevent items from being added to that theme that have nothing to do with Star Wars.

Otherwise you will have a whole discussion about which variant is and which is not.
Where do you draw the line?
Who are we to determine that?
Such a thing is purely subjective.

I don't dispute that either, I just agree with you ;-)

I don't dispute that either

I know.
I do not contradict you.

I just said it to make it clear that we are all behind that rule, and not weighed down by it.
Otherwise you will get another discussion about it.

The most annoying thing about requiring variant knowledge is that anyone who does not have all the knowledge (like me) cannot enter his old dolls properly. Take Princess Leia Organa for example (Catawiki number 948167 ).

Since I no longer have the original packaging, I cannot see everything from the doll. In photo 2 I do have a picture of the so-called COO (Country of origin), but I added it and not Vossinix who initially created the figure. Maybe Vossinix has another COO on Leia's leg?!? I don't know either the manufacturer / brand. Was it a Clipper or a Kenner? The doll is made with the same mold by several manufacturers ....

Because I no longer have the original packaging and because the figure is probably sold on about 45 different cards (which are only the US variants, for all other countries you can multiply it by a factor of 10) photo 3 can be removed. . Then you will see that collectors who also have that doll indicate this in Catawiki. Then another collector thinks they know on which card his / her Leia was sold and adds a third photo, which suddenly confronts all previous collectors with a card that may be unknown to them.

Actually, you can only enter correctly if you have the figure on a card and want to take the figure out of the package to take good photos. That must be anathema to some collectors!

In de catalogus  Star Heroes staan soms wel 5 verschillende uitvoeringen van hetzelfde figuurtje, europese en us uitgaven, met of zonder chip/sticker. Die staan allemaal afgebeeld verpakt op de kaart. Misschien is het een idee dat Catawiki dit boek aan een beheerder kan geven/goedkoop kan leveren.

Daarnaast staan de meest in het oog lopende verschillen, zoals de door mij ingevoerde Yoda's (met oranje of bruine slang) ook apart vermeld, daar alle figuurtjes ook nog eens zonder verpakking worden afgebeeld.

Als ik een los poppetje koop op de rommelmarkt  (zonder wapens/chip etc) weet ik ook niet welke uitgave dit precies is, kan wel kijken of deze al in catawiki staat en erop lijkt qua beschrijving deze toevoegen aan mijn verzameling met mijn eigen foto erbij in mijn eigen verzameling.

Vind ik dat het poppetje toch behoorlijk afwijkt kan ik ervoor kiezen om deze als apart item in te voeren, aan te beheerder dan de taak om dit te beoordelen, liefst in overleg met invoerder.

Aan de foto van een los poppetje zie je niet of er China of Korea in het been gedrukt  staat, kleurverschillen/verschillende attributen zie je wel, reden voor mij om verschillende kleuren altijd apart in te voeren, mits deze nog niet in Catawiki staat.

Ik vind ook niet dat verzamelaars af moeten haken omdat ze de "kennis " niet hebben, heb ik zelf ook niet, ik maak genoeg fouten. Probeer het zo goed mogelijk te doen.

The Star Heroes catalog sometimes contains 5 different versions of the same figure, European and US editions, with or without chip/sticker. They are all pictured packaged on the card. Perhaps it is an idea that Catawiki can give this book to a manager/deliver cheaply.

In addition, the most striking differences, such as the Yodas I imported (with orange or brown hose) are also listed separately, as all figures are also depicted without packaging.

If I buy a loose doll at the flea market (without weapons / chip etc) I also do not know which edition this is exactly, I can see if it is already in Catawiki and looks similar in terms of description. Add it to my collection with my own photo. in my own collection.

If I think that the doll is quite different, I can choose to enter it as a separate item, then it is up to the administrator to assess this, preferably in consultation with the importer.

You can't see from the photo of a loose doll whether China or Korea is printed in the leg, you can see color differences/different attributes, reason for me to always enter different colors separately, provided they are not yet in Catawiki.

I also don't think collectors should drop out because they don't have the "knowledge", I don't have it myself, I make enough mistakes. Try to do it the best you can.

Maybe it is an idea that Catawiki can give this book to an administrator / deliver it cheaply.

Smurfs are actually impossible without a catalog.
But yes, there must be an active administrator for this section, and he is no longer there.

Okay, okay,

I'm going to nitpick again and then I'll stop. I'm afraid it will become an incredibly inscrutable mess. Compare it with Tintin if you want. Take a Tintin album out of the closet and try to link it to an item in Catawiki. It takes some searching, but you will probably find it. This is mainly due to the fact that there are years under the pictures and HC if it is a hard cover edition. Good award photos have also often been posted.

If we are going to introduce the Star Wars figures in the way we are now going, there will be somewhere between 20 and 500, perhaps even more, different Luke Skywalkers (from the first 12 figures) in Catawiki in two years' time. If you search for it, you will get a list with the same year and article number under each picture. The color and hue differences depend on the camera, lighting and processing and say very little. Apart from the fact that Luke has different figures. And is for example "missing paint behind right ear" a variant or damage .........

Perhaps make a distinction between figures on a card and loose ones? Would care .........

No one will see the forest for the trees anymore. It is a pity that apparently there is no other way. I already had a lot of photos ready and done research to fill that database, but this way I don't see any benefit anymore.

Sorry for all my changes, I thought I could make sense of it! In about five years I will look at the possibilities and until then I will have to work with my own system.