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Ah, I can see. They were also in Great Britain, and you moved them from there to Lundy ... where they were dropped from Fantasy Land a few days ago :)
The puzzle pieces are gradually coming together.

Meanwhile, Malawi has been mucked out. Not much is left of it. The Cinderella group is almost half the size of the real stamps of the country itself.


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April 17, 2021 23:46
for franking mail from the State Life Insurance Company

Will a usage type 'State life insurance company' be added? :) :) :)
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April 18, 2021 08:19
Not necessary. The stamps already present are simply part of the service stamps. Just look at New Zealand + lighthouse (s).
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April 18, 2021 17:43
Even more, it also turned out to be a duplication.
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April 19, 2021 16:04
Mozambique - Cinderella

Unfortunately, I only find one item that could possibly be a cinderella (until 2016, that's how far my Michel goes from this part of Africa).
When I look at the 'official' site of Post Mozambique, my desire to search beyond 2016 drops below the lowest level imaginable.

Actually due to a clever trick of commerce: get 'appointed' to the official postal service of a country and just print (at full speed).
Then there are so many official stamps that are put on the market that there is no room for 'illegal' issues. This has been the case since about 2002.
The official site of Post Mozambique therefore proudly states:

"Currently there is no information about fake Mozambique postage stamps."

Stamperija Ltd. is an authorized representative of Mozambique post office and distributes postage stamps throughout stamp market worldwide. Stamperija Ltd. provides various selection of topical stamps and constantly updates the assortment with new stamps issues.

In the paper catalog Michel, as was also the case for certain Arab countries from another time period, from a certain point in time only mention is made of the catalog numbers and some summary information. No more image.
Maybe the country should be renamed 'Mozambique - Stamperija' on LD?
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April 19, 2021 18:43
Raoul62 Good to know about Mozambique. Is that also the case with Angola or are they illegal?
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Added: Albania - Cinderella and Uzbekistan - Karakalpakstan - Cinderella
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April 19, 2021 19:10
Mauretania did not issue any stamps in 2000-2002 according to their own notification to the UPU. That land also has the necessary Cinderella stickers with perforation.
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I do find a lot of information about unauthorized expenditure from Angola. Below is a small anthology (3 different sources).

(1) -In the Michel it is written in black and white :

Normally I thought I could detect the bulk of the cinderella cubes from afar, but since I've taken a closer look at Mozambique... I have a hunch who the producer might have been, only they haven't been appointed as the official in Angola postal service.
Angola's official postal service may have issued too few stamps (only a few hundred lol) in 2000 to leave enough room on the market for 'hijackers'. The fact that they are mainly themed stamps strongly increases my suspicion.

On the eworldstamps.com site I found:

In 1999, Angola stamps began appearing on the market that were totally bogus / illegal issues. These continued issues through at least 2003 and were all printed and sold by companies outside of Angola.
(2) Scott makes mention of these issues in the 1999 section of the catalog stating:
“These Flora and Fauna stamps, formerly Nos. 1067-1078 were not authorized by Angola postal authorities”
The stamps from 1999 feature various denominations and various themes such as Disney, Trains, Flora, Space, Entertainers, JFK, Churchill, Pope John Paul II and more.
The Stamps of 2000 feature again, various topical themes, but interestingly all in the same denomination of 3500000 kzr.

The 'format' of this value is laughable: KZr 3,500,000.00 ... Find the decimal :) :) :)
Angola is one of the few countries where, just like in Belgium and the Netherlands, the comma is used as a decimal separator. But it must be used in the right place, of course.

(3) Circular 406 of Mr MS Ramon (Assistant Director-General of the UPU ) lists a number of them. The list is very incomplete, but still much too long for this box.

Conclusion: 'Angola - Cinderella' is a necessity.
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Angola - Cinderella added
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It looks like a new global epidemic is spreading rapidly. Cinderella is the name of this problem. Even more serious and dangerous than Corona (Covid19). Countries where the disease is prevalent should be quarantined immediately. Dodos are especially susceptible to the disease and we must of course be careful with the last dodo. It is hoped that the UPU will soon develop a drug.
The discussion about Cinderellas has been discussed before and more often. Many good arguments have been put forward. Unfortunately, not much is done with it. Given the addition of Cinderella countries, the definition of Cinderella has now apparently been narrowed again to not approved by the UPU. The Viennese editions have been bombarded to Cinderella's. Apparently LastDodo has more expertise than Dai Nippon :-). Will all revolutionary seals from different countries follow? Isn't the fact that these stamps have (probably) been used more relevant than that UPU stamp? be placed with the land. And then they remain untouched and unknown in the catalog for another 7 years and, just like in previous years, they are simply offered for sale again. With that you miss your target. I believe that even illegal expenditure should be left with the country. But then clearly mark by type, type of use and others as illegal publications.

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I didn't know you were such a staunch opponent of Cinderellas too.
I think it's nonsense to make separate areas for that just because the UPU doesn't officially recognize Nagaland, for example. But what the hell do we have to do with the UPU, we collect stickers with a name on it and Nagaland is just a state in India, so what is wrong with collecting this with India and also keeping it in LD under India.
Once again I am glad that I only collect the Netherlands and do not keep my collection in LD. At the time I thought it was strange and also sad that I could no longer find the 'Viennese prints' from Indonesia in the Zonnebloem catalogue, they were quite beautiful pictures and I was quite proud that I could buy them with the little pocket money I had. got
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Morits az60,
We now know that there is no subject that has more (conflicting) opinions about than about cinderellas. See therefore also # 8538293
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The U niversal P ostal U nion is the postal cooperation of all legal postal administrations. These ensure that you can send mail from one country to another, without encountering problems when crossing the border with the settlement of costs, type of transport and other such obstacles that were there in the early 19th century and earlier.
Affiliated countries notify the UPU of the issuance of new stamps that are accepted for the said transport by all affiliated members (well above 200 ). These postal administrations also report to the UPU illegal, unauthorized, issues of merchants who make and sell so-called postage stamps for their own profit. These are actually profiteers who do not provide any kind of return in the form of postal transport and mainly intend to scam unsuspecting stamp collectors with beautiful pictures that look like stamps, but they are not .
Om To counter this, the Philatelic Webmasters Organization maintains a website on which the reports to the UPU by the member member states are summarized with regard to illegal expenditure. This concerns several hundred reports of thousands of "stamps".
Example: the Afghan post has reported that from 1988-2003 they have not issued any stamps due to the circumstances. Yet here in our catalog alone you will find 460 contributions on popular topics, such as the Olympics, flowers, prehistoric animals, space travel, chess, old cars, etc. All illegal and exclusively intended to defraud collectors. to be moved to Afghanistan - Cinderellas or, better yet, removed.
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Stamp collectors will never stop talking about how to handle cinderellas. LastDodo has therefore worked out a compromise that any collector can handle. Perhaps not 100% the right solution for some, but a workable solution for the collectors at LastDodo.
Let's put our energy into perfecting the catalog.
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April 20, 2021 19:02
I think it's nonsense to have separate areas there

Tastes and preferences differ ...
1. As it was now: everything (usually multiple) in one big frog pool (Fantasy Land), and then over and over again via the 'Official Land' area ... that couldn't last either.
2. There is currently a professional battle going on worldwide against sellers and promoters of unofficial releases (the "Bogus Stamps"). There are already lists of sellers (name, surname and country) on eBay, Delcampe and Hipstamps on the internet. Those sites are blamed for their laxity with the Bogus Stamps. Bitig. Soon I will see a list of LD salespeople added.
3. A competitor site is praised and glorified as an example: daring to show the unofficial issues, with the warning. We at LD can do that too, and maybe even better.
4. Possession is not punishable (the sale actually is), whoever owns them does of course not have to throw them away, but can 'manage' them in his collection on LD. They are worth nothing, but ideal as didactic material. How can a young enthusiast get started with this at LD? Neatly separate, just like the POST stamps (from, for example, the Netherlands or Belgium). But with an addition to clarify: these are not postage stamps (they are stamps).

I have some myself, and I also keep them. But I'm not crisscrossing Staffa, Nagaland and Buriatia. I also keep them separately.
I also have some of the risk areas (the Congos, Angola, ...), but I do not put them together in my collection of POST stamps. Separately. I am talking about a stamp collection, and a 'stamp' collection.
The name can be discussed for a long time. What's in the name. It just needs to be clear which areas / countries on LD contain the philately, and which (pseudo) countries / areas don't.
In the end, 'Fantasyland' should contain the real cinderellas. The issues that are not illegal, are not postage stamps, but do resemble one. For example, you have the JUL stamps, the tax stamps (are now dropped somewhere where no cat looks back), the art stamps, the advertising stamps. Yes even the 'savings stamps' are worth saving.
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April 21, 2021 08:46
Good to know about Mozambique. Is that also the case with Angola or are they illegal?

Daan, Stamperia is also lurking around the corner in Angola ... luckily only for about 3 years. But 3 years is enough to make a mess of it.
There must be a connection between the large price increase of paper catalogs and the practices of such 'companies'.
I have included the info (explanation) in the background page of the country Angola .

The non-stamps, meanwhile, have been moved to the Cinderella area for Angola. So also for this area the separation is clear, even for the picture viewers.

There is also a tax stamp in Angola: #8544083

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Perhaps the following feature is easy to 'copy' (implement) from the search on 'Series': the search on 'Michel number' via the filters (left in the overview window), . For making - keeping - a risk country 'healthy' (vwb the 'Bogus Stamps') it would make the work much easier. When in doubt after a long search, if I find it in that catalogue, I add that number. With a search box where 'Not filled in' would also be available for that data, I can limit the overview later and I don't always have to open all items in more detail each time.
Also very nice for a collector, seller or buyer to search (and find of course) because the search box in that search box, such as with 'Series', offers quite a few advantages (visual restriction 'on the fly' via the search box in that search box ).
For an administrator (official or unofficial :)), such a search box also offers many perspectives: incorrect input will spontaneously appear in front of you. Especially with the catalog codes for blocks there is a lot of 'wrong input' (not according to the manual)

Rene

Fantasyland : 1516 more :)
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Fantasy country : still 1516 :)

Good job Raoul62!
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Yesterday I filled up Karakalpakstan - Cinderella from fantasy land.
I keep going like this, I follow Postmaster without words.
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Karakalpakstan

I had never heard of it. This way you get to know new areas again. Apparently a lot of interest in animals there.
Good job aartinge
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When I have time I will fill Fantasyland a bit again.
Shameful that almost all stamps of "Holland" are missing.
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If I have time I will fill Fantasyland again.
It is outrageous that almost all stamps of "Holland" are missing.

If you mean the beautiful stamps of Joost Veerkamp: there will be another Cinderella - the Netherlands / Holland or the like, I understood, for those kinds of stamps with the inscription Nederland or Holland. So you better move it directly there stripspeldjes



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Australia - Hutt River - Cinderella
Yugoslavia - Cinderella
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Russian Federation - Tatarstan - Cinderella
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Moldova - Gagauzia - Cinderella
Albania - Cinderella
Russian Federation - Komi - Cinderella
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