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March 10, 2011 20:27

Why is the list of producers a closed list and not an open list. It only contains Dutch producers.

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  • February 24, 2011 18:04
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February 24, 2011 18:04

There will be no new ones, but there are (hundreds) thousands of 'old' bags in circulation.

And that from the same front, I also want people to scan the back as indicated in my first post. What is now in the Catawiki also comes from CSN, only we (unfortunately) miss the backs. And I don't know if they were all scanned at CSN (there are some backsides on the site but not everything).

And for people who want to add these backs, pay close attention to the description, if it does not match your bag, you can enter it as a new item.

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February 24, 2011 09:31

I have not looked that far, I have focused too much on my collection. Still, I still like my idea. There are bags with the same front but with a different back, how do you keep them apart?
The problem with the numbering of the "Club of Sugar Bag Collectors in the Netherlands" (CSN) is easy to overcome. All catalogs are on their site ( http://www.suikerzak.nl/catalogus.html ).
The problem of new bags is minimal, there are almost no new bags coming out, if so they will be included in the catalogs.


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  • February 23, 2011 20:13
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February 23, 2011 20:13

That is not a good idea.

You can simply sort by city name. And another thing is, new bags that are not in the csn catalog do not have a csn number. I don't have a list of all csn numbers other than the ones here, and then I would have to sort everything out manually (bit of work).

And for the search, the title seems more suitable to me, such as Café Zwaan for example. Not everyone is aware of the csn catalog.

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February 23, 2011 09:03

I think it would be better to keep the number from the Sugar Packers Club catalog as the title. This way, the bags are clearly arranged by place name together. Most collectors have also arranged their collection by place name. See some examples of the seal bags in my collection.

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  • February 04, 2011 20:07
February 04, 2011 20:07

Bravo Fazerco and thank you for all your efforts. I am curious how the sugar bag department develops. I am also very curious about the reactions of other collectors and shop owners (m / f)

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  • February 04, 2011 19:52
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February 04, 2011 19:52

First of all:

Post a scan/image of the front and back . The back allows us to add a period, and some fronts span several periods (read years).

Title:

Just what is written on the front, but only the most important, such as 'Café Restaurant Hotel "De Vlieger"' or 'Machinefabriek Langedijk'. The other text/description can be done in 'text on packaging'.

Type of packaging:

You can choose from bags, wrappers and sticks.

Specific Packing:

Usually flap pouch or sealed pouch

Type Back:

Van Oordt uses different logos on the back over the different decades, such as the circle and wybertje. Or Puttershoek had large and small triangles. So if you start the entry with e.g. Wybertje, or Grote and then Catawiki automatically gives you a choice, use it! .

Manufacturer Packing:

Here you can add the manufacturer of the packaging, such as van Oordt, FG, Puttershoek, etc. Use the autocomplete ! At FG start with Friesch and then use autocomplete.

Industry :

You can choose this from the list, so a cafe restaurant is catering

Type of Sugar:

Indicate what is on the bag, such as refined granulated sugar, or granulated sugar.

Sugar manufacturer:

Take here what is usually stated on the back of the bag, for example CSM, or VCS If your vcs input comes the auto-fill, then choose the VCS

Place :

Is stated on most bags, if there is nothing on it, it can remain empty

Province :

It is stated on some bags, if it is not so, here is a tip, google the place ;) It is about the place where the company or cafe is located!

Country :

Seems logical to me, most of them come from the Netherlands, but there are also plenty of bags from other countries, so import them.

Color :

Try to put all colors on the bag, such as: Blue, red, white

Text position :

Landscape or portrait for bags, and narrow or square for wrappers.

Text on Packaging :

Enter all the text on the bag here. Unless it says the manufacturer on the back. Other text on the back can also be used here, start with (Back) and er below the text.

Key word :

Use 1 word here, for example: Hotel Café Restaurant Zwaan, then you use Zwaan. You can also use a word that you think is important but does not appear in the title.

Pictured :

Describe here what is depicted on the bag. For example: View of the cafe.

Rules Back:

Here we try to sort the backs, using for example 4 lines of text. Those 4 lines of text refer to the back of the bags. So it says -machine packed refined granulated sugar- under each other, so that's 4 lines.

Series:

Here you can lose series such as the series of castles or series of historic automobiles.

Number in series:

Place the number on the bag from the series here.

Period :

That remains an estimate, but you can compare the backs with the so-called date bags. Those are the bags that have a year on them. For example, a period is 1950-1959.

Year:

Only fill in if there is a year on the bag.

CSN Catalog No :

This will have to be entered by someone from CSN

Dimensions :

Just in cm, so for example L x W cm

Details :

If there is something special about the bag, put it here.

Please note that Catawiki automatically completes as soon as you enter 2 or 3 words. Please take advantage of this otherwise some entries will appear dozens of times in different versions and that will make searching difficult.

Take a good look around before you start entering. Especially the different manufacturers, look it up and see how that is filled in.

Also keep in mind that the colors may differ due to the scanner used. So also look at color!

addition:

Again, if too little is entered, such as city, province, country, text on the packaging, because that is stated on most bags or is easy to find, the bag will be removed !

If you don't know what needs to be entered for the back (there is manufacturer, type of back, type of sugar, sugar manufacturer, rules on back), make a scan and I or someone else can add it.

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