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Rene 
if I want to change a price of a shop item via 'change price', I see that 'offer' is on by default, that doesn't seem right to me...
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015steef500 Rene 
I also find it quite disturbing to have to change the price separately. The change that has been made is absolutely no improvement, so also that separate change price option
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When changing item you could first change and save everything at once.
Now you have to change the price separately.
Can't that option of changing price also remain possible when changing item?

I also find it quite disturbing to have to change the price separately.

This is a temporary work-around so that you can make a Van Before price offer if you lower the price. We are working on a new management environment for the shop in which you will soon be able to do these kinds of things much more easily.
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If I want to change a price of a shop item via 'change price', I see that 'offer' is turned on by default, that doesn't seem right to me...

The idea is that most people who lower their price like it if it stands out because of a "From Before offer". That's why it's on by default. Do you want to make it an offer in less than half of the cases if you lower the price? Morits 
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I never want to make it an offer and it is on by default, so even if I want to increase my price...
Another extra click to turn it off....if I eht If I want to make an offer, I want to activate this pass. You should NEVER assume anything with these types of options (I don't use capital letters to shout). You may know that I have also been a software developer for 35 years.
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In cases like this it is especially important to see what most people want to do. That option that most people are expected to choose, you turn on by default with the option to adjust it if the user wants something different. But we measure how many people adapt it. If there are a large number, we will of course change the standard situation to what most people appear to do in practice. I do not agree that you cannot make assumptions, but of course you have to test them. Morits 
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Sorry, users who don't want anything to do with from/for have to do more than they want to, they are more or less harassed. Users who do want that, want even more options and therefore benefit from them. So always make sure that the first group is never bothered by it and that the second group has to perform extra actions anyway...
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In general, our idea is that if you have to choose which group should perform an extra task (such as with a switch that can be on or off by default), we choose the smallest group of users. So most people don't mind. In this specific case, we will therefore take a closer look at whether our assumption that most people want to make a Van Before offer when a price changes is correct. Because it could be that the majority of users, like you, don't want that Morits I'll get to that later.
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Changing the price of a combination offer does not work.
The pop-up appears, you can then click on or off "the offer" and change the price.
But after clicking on "Save" nothing happens.

When changing the price of a single item, this works fine.

I also ran into this yesterday and then removed the combi and re-introduced it with the new price. Works, but yes, a bit cumbersome :-)




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Incidentally, I agree with Morits about whether or not to use the "Offer check mark". In most cases I will not check this box.

By the way, also because an offer on Lastdodo is a rather freely interpretable concept. The prices of many of the comic books are determined by the market. What is an offer at that moment...  

So it's nice that it is still being looked at.
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Changing the price of a combination offer does not work.
The pop-up appears, you can then click on or off "the offer" and change the price.
But after clicking on "Save" nothing happens.

When changing the price of a single item, this works fine.

Ah, thanks JandL !
I tried to reproduce it but didn't realize it only goes wrong with a combination offer. Let's look at it. Thanks for reporting!
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The idea is that most people who lower their price like it if it stands out because of a "From Before offer". That's why it's on by default. Do you want to make it an offer in less than half of the cases if you lower the price?

I am also not in favor of if you lower the price of an item that it is immediately or automatically presented as an offer.
Example: a few days ago I wanted to make 1 item in a series (stamps) that I sell 2 euro cents cheaper, so that all items in that series have the same price. That is not an offer, but just a small change. So: I follow Morits 
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MennoGo I do indeed see this offer in your shop which may not be very wild in terms of discount :-)



Although of course it is 16.7% discount. Then again.
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Perhaps this question does not belong here: 
But with the changes , the site has also decided to show the name of the shop instead of the name of the shop in the list of sellers of a comic book (or other item) in the future the username?

(For years I find it annoying that the seller list always shows my username  instead of the shopname Muchacho )  




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I may say something stupid. If you are in the catalog environment and are looking for something, you will also end up at providers shops/marktplaats if the item in question is on offer. Conversely, if someone in the marketplace environment is looking for something and it is not offered, you will not come to a possibly existing catalog item. No problem for experienced people who know how to switch between catalog and marketplace. For newbies or not so active users, it can turn out that when viewing marketplace, no hit, LastDodo is abandoned. Is it a simple thing to place a pop up link near the search option at the position" 0 results for xxxxx   : search the catalog ?  Then a user can directly use the "in search list" option.  
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 Conversely, if someone is looking for something in the marketplace environment and it is not offered, you will not be able to access a possibly existing catalog item.

Because of the combination of "not" and "yes", I had to read this sentence carefully Harry56 :-)
But you're right, it would be nice to have a zero result from the marketplace, where there is if there is a catalog item that matches the query, pointing it out to people (that they can put it in their search list). I'll put it on our todo list, even if it will take a while to make. Thanks for thinking along!
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Rene, I have a (harmless) form of dyslexia, I generally read what I write first, I am traditionally far too long-winded, even checking it does not guarantee that readers will immediately understand everything I mean. If you know what I mean ...
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It's all completely correct what you write  Harry56  Little noticeable of the dyslexia.
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But with the changes  has it also been decided for the site to show the name of the shop instead of the username in the list of sellers of a comic book (or other item) in the future?

(For years I find it annoying that the seller list always contains my username  instead of the shopname Muchacho )  

Good point JandL
The problem is that some shop names are now long.
Harry56 has for example:


That does not fit in the block with the sellers of a catalog item. We then have to cut this off and we hadn't gotten around to that yet. But we will certainly work on this.
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Rene what you paste here is my shop banner, not my shop name. I hope I don't get cut off.....
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Changing the price of a combination offer does not work.
The pop-up appears, you can then click on or off "the offer" and change the price.
But after clicking on "Save" nothing happens.

Should now be able to adjust the price of a combi offer. Could you test?
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Rene what you are pasting here is my shop banner, not my shop name. I hope I don't get cut off.....

No, that is really your shop name Harry56
it will be displayed in your shop under your shop banner:



See Settings via your personal menu below you avatar, at the top right of every page, where you can set your shop name.

But you are certainly not the only one with a very long shop name.
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Again something to learn for me. Avatar is also new to me. What should I put under the shop name? Harry56 or something else . Avatar an image of your choice ? And My banner can stay the same?
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Ha Rene,

the combination offer now also works like a charm. Thx.

By the way, I now also saw that when you increase the price and you overlook that the offer check (automatic) is on, you will be ticked off with the message that the price must be lower than the old price - because offer...
So you have to uncheck it again.
This is of course correct. But actually argues in favor of not checking the box automatically... :-)




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Another thing to learn for me. Avatar is also new to me. What should I put under the shop name? Harry56 or something else . Avatar an image of your choice ? And My banner can stay the same?

Everything can stay the same. Your shop name is just a bit long, but that happens more often and we have to solve it on the screens where we want to show it. Harry56 
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