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December 17, 2023 19:36
To explore the working method outside the stamp section, I would like to add my "collection" of 5 plates."

Item #9458303 shows the cover and release number exactly as I have it. The third photo shows a yellow label, the details say "red label", isn't that contradictory?

There is a blue label in the middle of my LP that is printed exactly the same as in the photo.
Do sound carriers with a different colored label constitute a separate item, or is this color not important?

The answer may have already been given somewhere, but I can't find it.

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The third photo shows a yellow label
I think it's a pretty bad photo of a (light) red label.
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December 17, 2023 20:01
Boekenmagazijn that could be. And what to do with my real blue label (with the same print)

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December 17, 2023 20:19
As far as I know, the carrier is leading. A different color label therefore becomes a new item.

I see that in the Handbook the term Label is used in two senses, for both the issuing record company (for which a field is available), and for the label on the vinyl (the term 'label' is not used). That can lead to confusion.
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PS It is also striking that the French and German Manual have a completely different layout than the Dutch and English versions. That suggests that the rules are not identical. The term "label" does not appear here at all, even though the input field is called the same.
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December 17, 2023 20:46
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You have a so-called label variant and this can be entered as a new item. Even a small deviation in text or placement of text on the label causes a label variant.
In the "record world" there are indeed two meanings of label. The term label is not used. So far it hasn't caused any confusion ;-)
I don't know the German and French manual very well. I do make adjustments to the Dutch and English manual if necessary.
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Helv Boekenmagazijn FransS
I think it is a yellow/brown label
So I just put the question to Hi
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December 18, 2023 00:44
Dick52 thanks. For some reason I'm still having trouble searching. After adding it I did come across the LP with the blue label. I immediately labeled my addition as duplication :-/ Apologies.

Are there any tricks to see similar LPs side by side?
Isn't it useful to make Release Number "clickable"?

It was also noticeable that sometimes "Reuther, Franz" and sometimes "Reuther, Frank" are used.

According to Wikipedia, "Franz" is the correct spelling.
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I think it's red. Why else would the importer have explicitly stated this in the Particulars?

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I don't see Frank Reuther, only Franz Reuter and Frank Farian.
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December 18, 2023 01:21
Boekenmagazijn you're right. I think it's really time for bed....

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Good night for me too ;-)
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It's a little tricky at first.
But if you go to music and search for the Release number at the top of the search list, then two items would have appeared in your example, now three with your Doublure.
But then of course the Release numbers for the items that are currently listed under music must be entered correctly, this is not always possible.
In your example it is OT 28.888 with a dot between the numbers, there is also one with OT 28 888 so without a dot and space between the numbers.
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December 18, 2023 01:25
Lyonesse and the record sleeve itself says 28 888 OT.
The label has OT 28.888 (i.e. the letters in front and with a period).

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For music, the Release Number is taken from the Label, never from the cover.
And always look at Letters, periods, dashes and spaces.
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December 18, 2023 07:59
Lyonesse thanks.
Is there a trick to take straight photos of the cover?
I have a 2013 pressing of #2206003 . With labels "Track Record", "Polydor" and "Universal Music".
I don't think it's there yet?
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The simplest solution
But unfortunately this does not always have to do with the history of LD
Is select by scan
So for the label scan 3 alone has not been mandatory for a very, very long time
Once the label has been placed there you can see it in overview and see a side by side selection by title or release number
First by artist, - carrier - release number - title and scan 3
Then you will quickly see the similarities
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I could be wrong, but it makes space or . (Release number)
No influence on selection
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In addition, it would be nice if scan 3 and 4 became mandatory, label readable
Scan 3 A side and scan 4 B side
On 78” vinyl, MC
Although ! The exception is the sealed copies, but they may use picture 1 more often

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Dick52 if there are exceptions to the 4 picture rule due to sealed LPs then it can only be made "mandatory" via the manual. It seems logical to me to have a scan of both the A and B sides now that LD allows more images.

I have also included photos of the printed inner sleeve as images 5 and 6 (see #11003 ).
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Once the label has been placed there you can see it in overview and see a side by side selection by title or release number
First by artist, - carrier - release number - title and scan 3
What I initially miss a bit is getting "similar" outer covers next to each other. Searching via scan 3 (if present) also works quite well indeed.
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Helv Then you have to use scan 1 and back 2

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Until then, René did not know that more scans were desired

(see #11003 ).
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Is there a trick to take straight photos of the cover?
More and more photo editing apps for mobile phones (e.g. Snapseed) have a function for automatic perspective correction. I have no experience with it myself, but I have seen from others that it works perfectly for photos of rectangular objects.
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I have the Fotoscan app on my phone (Android). That works well. But for LP covers I always use a tripod and a digital SLR camera on a tiled floor. Then you can photograph a lot of fronts and backs quite quickly. Afterwards I update them with the free GIMP,

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Regarding your duplicate entry: I have not rejected your item, but merged it with the existing one. This way you, as the owner, remain linked to the item ;-) Your label scan is slightly nicer than the old one, so if you want you can replace it with yours.
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Not that I like to advertise, but Helv Boekenmagazijn both for Win and Mac: Photoscape x (get the free one, pro is less), you can cut/perspective/rotate/ pulling etc.. No disturbing advertising, already in use for 3 years. Unfortunately I can't say how it works on the phone (it does).
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