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January 26, 2022 23:42
The Belgie-Belgique is simply the country entry. We don't include those.
And I was actually referring to #1468425.
People! #8975391 #8913641 #8975407. I think I'm going to write a handbook about reading a handbook.
One of the things you can't do at the moment is searching for face value blank, it's on the wishlist (so you can quickly find errors).
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January 26, 2022 23:58
And my point is that it's not clear and, quite frankly, still isn't quite getting there.

In the other thread it was asked to convert everything with "1 International" to "International 1".



Would an administrator want to change the value 1 International to International 1 ?
Thanks in advance.

I admit that there are many stamps wrong, but I also come across this one: #8499093 .
I would also call it "1 international" after all your indications, but apparently that is not good ???

It may be that by definition it concerns rate group "International 1", but that is substantive knowledge that you must have and it deviates from the main rule of the handbook.

That is completely separate from fantasizing, because there are indeed enough examples of that.

To prevent or reduce further errors, my simple question was add "International 1" explicitly as an example, because I think that the Netherlands is currently the most collected within LD.

If all other users understand it and do not enter it incorrectly, then we can put an end to it.

Given the stats, I don't think others get it.
Within the Netherlands I find: "1 International" has been entered 187 times, "1 International" has been entered 13 times and "International 1" has been entered 18 times.

Good night everyone!
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January 27, 2022 00:06
 user-1713548 I would almost think that you work for a standardization committee. I once saw an explanation of an explanation of a standard...

No kidding, is it an idea to have a video with explanation next to the manual?
Or some short films? Or does that not fit our user group?
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Raoul62 I think so too. Just copy the numbers that are on the stamp. That makes searching a lot easier.
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What do you put in which stamps at LastDodo, just to sell.
See this #8994299.
I'd say delete that trade .
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What do you give which stamps to LastDodo, only to sell.
See this #8994299.
I would say, delete that trade.

It is not nicely entered and also not an ideal image, but - if this series was not already in the catalog - then we better have this starting point for addition by other users than nothing at all, right? Lyonesse 
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It is not a Series, which ones are also shown twice.
The Series consists of at least 16 stamps, which are in any case at LastDodo.
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January 27, 2022 15:38
Lyonesse Aha, if we already have it then it can simply be rejected of course.
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Necessary action taken. Also asked to study the Stamp Handbook. He also used incorrect notation (120-129 instead of 120#129).
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January 27, 2022 17:03
(Super)administrators regularly search for the term 'DOUBLURE of'. You must mention this in the title if an item is not ok. All kinds of inventive prose are not searched for.
In this case you have to put the following in the title: 'DOUBLURE of: not a valid item'. Then it will be found and removed very quickly.
You do the same with incomplete series: 'DOUBLURE of: incomplete series'.
With that trick it is no longer necessary to send a PM or post it on the forum . Time-saving and effective.
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And I did respond to that :-D Lyonesse  would have done it exactly like that.

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I am correcting the International 1 Stamps with the Stamps, I now know this type.
But what is e.g. with this stamp #7832381 this remains 1 International
And this, #8189569 this becomes International 1
And this #8752149 also becomes this international 1
Questions about questions LOL.
Greetings John.
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January 27, 2022 18:34
Lyonesse et al.
While many nominal values have been entered incorrectly, we are a bit stuck in searching for nails at low water for a long time. Also use common sense when filling out. We cannot require each variant to be accurately described in the Handbook. Also try to think along the lines of the Handbook.
In this case I think very simply: the value is 1 whether it is before or after International. Most people will first search for 1 and then they will automatically see a value with International (My question here is whether it is necessary to mention International?)

I would rather see that all this energy was put into actually cleaning up the Nominal Values.
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January 27, 2022 18:46
1 International is at 1 in the list, International 1 at the letter I. An inexperienced person will not think of looking for the letter in the list with "nominal values".
I would stick to 1 International because of the ease of finding it
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January 27, 2022 19:01
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Just take it literally.
The fact that a group '1 INTERNATIONAL' and a group 'INTERNATIONAL 1' become available is only an advantage. Anyone who searches will first 'literally' select the group to look at the images in the results.
And that is the intention: that it is workable for a user (wherever he lives, no matter how beaked or spotted) . Both in adding and looking up.
Removing 'value' in the narrow sense of the meaning, and appropriate the empathic meaning of 'value' . More value for the user.

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The rate groups are useful. If the adder, or the searcher, understands.
In Belgium, 80% value is currently '1'. Domestic, Europe or International.
If the rate group is there: include it in the nominal value field.
Group '1' is, after all, a mega-group to search in.
A lot of people will use the rate group help you find an item faster. And that's what it's all about.
With the stamps of the United States, the tariff groups are in any case a blessing in the search for the right item. Imagine if we didn't include that data there...

A searcher will sometimes search in group '1', and then see that a '1 EUROPE' exists. And then it's like 'aha, that's what it says on that seal! I recognise that!'. That customer's second search will look completely different. Then it will first search in the group '1 EUROPE' if it says so on the stamp. Sometimes he will have to search in group '1' after all. A smart (and social) customer on LD will then adjust the 'face value' to '1 EUROPE' upon finding. The next customer looking for this stamp will be helped. With a virtual hint of unconscious gratitude :)

So everyone who has a little bit of gray matter and is a little bit social (we're on a wiki!): make the (post) stamps findable with the field 'face value'.
And: all pairs, se-tenants, combinations from booklets, series, FDC's, FDS's, occasion covers, W-envelopes, sheets, blocks with more than 1 stamp, ... where there is something in the box reads: discard. Unless there is clearly one total sales price stated on the packaging of the item (for a folder or a booklet, for example). And, that this is also visible on image 1, 2 or 3.
See manual.

In case of serious (with emphasis on serious) doubt, or during a moment of weakness (fatigue) you can ask an administrator, or on the forum.
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International 1 and/or 1 International is fine for me too, what matters to me is that we don't have long discussions about whether 1 is International or International 1 at a certain point.

I'd be happy to help with any merging of Nominal values.
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One of the most annoying phenomena is the trailing blank.
Eg it said '5 Fr'. A considerate user removes 'Fr', but not the trailing space. That stays. This wasn't so bad before, but since we got the beautiful search function at face value, it's bummed.
That makes there:
next to the group '5' also a group '5' is created.
I once asked if a script could not be released on the field to remove the leading and trailing spaces ...

You don't have to worry about the 'tariff indications'. Literally taking over is really the best option.

The rest is purely manual. See what's on the stamp, and see what's in the Face Value field. Everyone can always help with that.

For the slightly smarter users:
select a country, click on 'More>' under the filter 'Nominal value' in the left section and look at the gross blunders in the list.
Examples:
- '2 x 50' -> indicates an item with multiple stamps, and there 'Face value' must be empty;
- '35000 Euros' ... you don't expect that in Yemen lol;
- '1/3B', '12 xu', ... -> currency must be removed. Be sure to remove the last blank so that only a number remains!;
- '-', '0', 'empty', 'not stated', 'without value', 'zw', ... -> if there is nothing, then the field must also be left empty. NB. Even if it says 'zw' (no value) it could be a mistake. Always take a good look at the stamp first to see if there is no value indication on it (eg '12');
- '12+12+12+12+20+30' -> for math and operations of this level you have to go to 2nd grade, but not LD: indicates an item with multiple seals, then 'Face value' being empty;
- respect the spelling, including dashes and/or capital letters. Look at the back of the list for the rate groups. 'FIRST CLASS' is not the same as 'First Class'. In the narrow sense of 'value' yes, but not in the empathic sense on LD. Copying it correctly and literally can greatly reduce search times for hundreds of users. Every day again. Time that can be spent searching and ordering in the shops. I barely get around to it myself...

For the really smart users:
Select a country. Select resp. 'Block', Sheetlet', 'FDC', 'FDS, ... and do what you're supposed to do. You are smart or you are not (yet). :)

'And now ahead' someone once said. That was smart man. Also had as a motto 'See, judge, act'. That's completely different from 'Seeing, judging, whining'.
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I just tried to change 1/8 to ⅛ (#5497285), but that still doesn't catch the field. And also ⅜ is too difficult (#7332169).
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You have to do the blocks when you are well awake. The handbook says: block with 1 stamp = with value, block with several stamps = blank. Now it's just random.
Raoul62 Do you get a green bird like that if you've read the manual carefully? ;-)
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No, you have to walk a different path for that.
I gave a 3D printer to my teenage son, and look what I got in return.
And considering the home industry is…
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No, I only get a question mark back when I try. Perhaps too high a character for LD.
¼¾½ ῳ ⅓⅔⅛⅜⅝⅞
It will already work on the forum. It will be more modern. Originally, in the early days of computers, the standard basic character set contained only ¼¾½
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The United States is already looking quite healthy in face value terms, compared to last week's situation. It is already easy to search and find. At first sight I only saw one strange lake and I got rid of it. Chapeau.
So you see: when the need is greatest, the ranks close on LD. Great.

Now another Global Administrator who views and approves all those recent Nominal changes (reviews). Because as a result, the 'open reviews' have increased further to almost 10,000 ...

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